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UL blank for "swings flies" on cribs.... suggestions
Posted by: Buzz Butters (---.ripon.k12.wi.us)
Date: October 15, 2008 12:34PM

Good morning guys,
I am looking for a specific style of blank at a reasonable price. Here is the application what it is used for.

In the summer local anglers fish deep cribs (20 to 35 feet deep) for suspended bluegills and crappies. An ant fly, tipped with a wax worm is cast out about the same number of feet from the boat as the fish are suspended from the bottom. A small split shot is on the line also. As the fly and split shot swing through the water column on a tight line the gills/crappies will pick off the fly as it goes past them. This is NOT vertical jigging. The anglers that use this technique far and away outfish the vertical jiggers. The rods that we use now are custom built on a St. Croix SCIII or SCII ultralight spin blanks. They work perfect. They load with a small split shot and fly. The angler can also see the bite in the tip and feel the bite through the reel seat. They also have enough backbone to set the hook on deep water fish. Problem is.............. most anglers that fish for panfish in this manner don't want to spend the $ for a custom rod on a St. Croix blank for this application. I need to find a blank with similar action, power, loading characteristics for a much lower price. I have tried the Batson Forecast light spin SB780 light rated for 1/16 to 5/16 ounce lures. The lure rating is about right but it is just a little on the stiff side for loading this split shot and fly for casting

Any suggestions??????????
Buzz Butters
B&B Custom Rods
Ripon, WI

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Re: UL blank for "swings flies" on cribs.... suggestions
Posted by: Jim Reinhardt (---.r-pschools.com)
Date: October 15, 2008 12:59PM

Check out the ulrta-light and light action rods from Dorber.

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Re: UL blank for "swings flies" on cribs.... suggestions
Posted by: Todd R. Vivian (---.se.biz.rr.com)
Date: October 15, 2008 01:39PM

Buzz,
you might check the Lamiglas IFW78-UL

IFW78-UL 6'6 1pc 2-8 lb. 1/8-3/8 oz. .35 Butt OD 5 tip 1 3/4 oz. $27.00

Todd

Regards,
Todd Vivian
Mud Hole Custom Tackle

todd@mudhole.com

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Re: UL blank for "swings flies" on cribs.... suggestions
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: October 15, 2008 01:47PM

Buzz,
Suprisingly enough, some of the ultra light blanks that are unsanded from Mudhole fill just such a purpose.
You sometimes have to sort through a couple to find the right one, but you can get them for less than $10.
Take care
Roger

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Re: UL blank for "swings flies" on cribs.... suggestions
Posted by: Karry Batson (---.olympus.net)
Date: October 15, 2008 01:47PM

The Forecast SB720 has more of a Mod/Fast Bass taper.

Try the Forecast SP720 you will find it more on the moderate side.

Karry Batson
Batson Enterprises Inc.
Ph: (877) 875-2381
Fax: (360) 683-3579
karry@batsonenterprises.com
www.batsonenterprises.com

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Re: UL blank for "swings flies" on cribs.... suggestions
Posted by: Joe Douglas (---.static.vsat-systems.net)
Date: October 15, 2008 01:49PM

Buzz, Depending on length, some of the Tiger Eye blanks we have would be well suited for this application. be happy to work with you to find the right one. Joe

Joe Douglas

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Re: UL blank for "swings flies" on cribs.... suggestions
Posted by: Edward D. Smith (---.ard.bellsouth.net)
Date: October 15, 2008 08:58PM

Buzz (and Karry),

I am a great fan of the Batson IP840. This rod may lack the "backbone" you desire but I find this rod to be very sensitive. I fish it with 4lb test all the time. There is also a SC III that is similar and I can get at about the same price. I forgot the exact number but it has similar chacteristics. IMO a sensitve rod is more forgiving than one with a lot of backbone. If you want more details send me an email.

Ed Smith
Flat Rock, NC

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Re: UL blank for "swings flies" on cribs.... suggestions
Posted by: Chia-Chien Goh (97.92.190.---)
Date: October 16, 2008 09:12AM

Buzz,
In SE Asia, New Zealand and some areas of Australia, they are using a similar tactic called spin-fly. There are now dedicated blanks for this style of fishing that originated from the prawn fishing rods and the fly rods. Now they have their own blanks made for the purpose. I have tried, with success using the Seeker 7 foot 2 piece rod rated 1-4 lb test with decent success. It did better after I spiral wrapped it and used it with a Shimano Scorpion 1000 4x4. The size of fish landable with this rig is incredible, and if you can cast well with a baitcaster, the distance is pretty good too using just small flies. So far, I have only been throwing small clousers. Hope this helps.

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Re: UL blank for "swings flies" on cribs.... suggestions
Posted by: Timothy Johnson (---.177.29.241.adsl.snet.net)
Date: October 16, 2008 11:51AM

Try the Am Tackle Matrix UL. I have a 5' one I did, rated 1/32-1/8, but I have thrown 1/4 or 5/16 oz rapalas as well.

[www.troutmagnet.com]
1/64 oz hook with a tiny jig head, and the rubber body. Throws these very nicely!! $26 at Mudhole.

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