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Spar Varnish on Thread / Or Epoxy
Posted by:
Paul Asbell
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Date: May 29, 2008 10:53PM
I was curious how many like using spar varnish on there thread wraps, decals, or if you like using epoxy better. It seems that more coats are required to have a smooth finish with varnish. What is a good brand of spar varnish to go with? Is it a good choice over epoxy?
Thanks Paul Re: Spar Varnish on Thread / Or Epoxy
Posted by:
Michael Blomme
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Date: May 30, 2008 02:10AM
Good Evening Paul,
If you need to read more about Spar Varnish, try Googling Golden Witch or bamboo rods. Bamboo rod makers favor Spar varnish over modern finishes. Spar Varnish has a much lower viscosity than epoxy finishes. The learning curve for applying it is much easier. To achieve a nice finish five to seven coats are needed. Varnish will never get the very high gloss of a high build epoxy finish. The cons for varnish is that it isn't as durable as epoxy and a rod will need to be revarnished every 3-5 years depending on use. An epoxy finish has a much higher viscosity and requires more learning to apply it correctly, but is more durable and often requires only one coat. Many epoxy finishes darken over time. A third type of finish is PermaGloss, a water catalyzed urethane finish. It has the viscosity of varnish and can be applied as easily as varnish. It is harder than epoxy, remains flexible at both high and low temperatures. It is also as or more durable than epoxy. It has two major drawbacks. First, it requires 4-5 coats and gives a more satin finish rather than a gloss finish. Second, you must protect PermaGloss from moisture since the curing process requires water as a catalyst. Once you open a container, it must be kept moisture free or it will begin to cure and the entire bottle will become solid. I hope this helps. Mike Blomme Re: Spar Varnish on Thread / Or Epoxy
Posted by:
Paul Asbell
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Date: May 30, 2008 07:15AM
Thank you Mike for sharing. I have tried many epoxies, and realized alot of the problem is me. Applying epoxy is a practiced art it seems, and while I am getting better at the learning curve, I agree with you regarding viscosity. I like the application of the varnish better, but have always believed I would not get a glossy finish as I do with epoxys. I like using Pernagloss, and yes it sets up very quickly in the bottle, a problem I wish that the co. would continue to address with the packaging, especially the glass and lid. Thanks again for helping. Paul Re: Spar Varnish on Thread / Or Epoxy
Posted by:
Russ Pollack
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Date: May 30, 2008 09:32AM
There is a can that you can use to store your PermaGloss. It has a screw punched into the side. near the bottom. Once you open a bottle of the stuff, pour the rest into the can. It keeps for nearly ever, quite usable. Some of the sponsors sell the can but off the top of my head I can't think who just now.
Uncle Russ Calico Creek Rods Re: Spar Varnish on Thread / Or Epoxy
Posted by:
Michael Blomme
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Date: May 30, 2008 09:50AM
Good Morning all,
If you contact Joe Kassuba at His Rodshop, he can either sell you a can or tell you where he obtains his. Mike Blomme Re: Spar Varnish on Thread / Or Epoxy
Posted by:
Dean Veltman
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Date: May 30, 2008 05:03PM
Why does the can work for storage? There is still airspace in the top of the can, right? Seems like it would still cure. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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