If you had your druthers would you use U-40 color lock or Gudebrod 811? I have some of both and the 811 sure does seem thick. Also do you suggest a second coat of CP?

Thanks
Tom Church

If you wait another week or so we can toss the Lamar CP into the mix. You will really like this new product that Andy has come up with. Coming very soon!!!!!!

Karen Hapka
Bingham Enterprises

I would love to have some, but I am going on vacation in 6 days and want this rod to take with me. I will certainly get some and use it when It comes out.

Tom Church

Tom you'll have to play around a little bit. The 811 you have sounds like one of the newer formula's. I haven't had to use the newer 811 because I still have several bottles of the old formula. I have at least one bottle of each kind of CP. Diamond, U-40, Gudebrod 811, and several others of different brands and a couple home made types. I try to use the CP for the type finish I use, the main thing you want to do is get a process for the CP that works for you, my method is put as much CP on as it will take, hold a little cup underneath the wrap to catch excess CP, then turn the rod and brush off any more excess, then wait 30 min.'s and with the rod turning using a brush put as much CP on as it will take, I always use two coats. If you want to speed it up a bit use a hair dryer hi heat low fan and heat the CP after you apply it. I always wait min 12 hours before applying finish. As of yet I haven't gotten any blotches or anything weird happing with my wraps because of CP.

I like the U40 stuff, and I use 2 coats.
I also like the Diamondite CP.
I am waiting for Andy's stuff to hit the market as I have heard nothing but good things about it.

Regards
Dave

Fishing is Life the rest is just Details

Just for the sake of my curiosity. Is more than one coat necessary ? Not being an expert on the subject by any means, I would think that after the first coat dries, the second coat will not be able to soak through the first. Are you not just laying the second coat on top of the first one?
I have always used one coat because of my assumption.

J.B.Hunt
Bowling Green, KY

If the 811 is thick it sounds like the earlier formula. When I still had some of the early formula I would apply one flood coat making sure the wrap was a consistent wet look. Then let it throughly dry (often overnight) before appyling finish.

I ran out the early formula, tried the new and it made me really look forward to Andy's.

I was fortunate enough to get a sample of Andy's CP at the ICRBE. I have just used it on a rod that I'm restoring. It's awesome stuff, can't wait for it to come to the suppliers so I can get it. Jay, If you'll look on down the forum list, it may be on te second page by now, You'll find a thread concerning that very thing. In the post's someone made mention of why Acetone was being used with CP. Doc Ski responded with a very good way to check to see if your CP was completely covering / soaking the thread wraps. I believe it went like this: after the CP has dried, soak it with denat. alcohol, if you see any dark spots where the alcohol has soaked in then you know that the CP didn't cover that spot. Of course, you need to let the alcohol completely dry then recoat with CP to cover those spots. Check Doc's post to make sure I'm getting this right.

Bill in WV

I know of a popular bamboo rod maker that uses Al's CP on his silks and gives them 5 to 6 coats before varnish.

I use Al's CP as well, and give the wraps at least 3 coats. But my final finish technique is different than that of AJ's.

I would give ANYTHING for a case of the OLD #811 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Tom Kirkman



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Thanks Bill. Apparently I did not read all the posts to that thread. That satisfied my curiosity .

J.B.Hunt
Bowling Green, KY

A;ways welcome Jay, that's what we're here for. To help each other!!!

Bill in WV

Cut the 811 with 30% alcohol.

Wait for Andy's CP.

Alsways use two coats. Let each coat dry completely.

Uncle Russ
Calico Creek Rods

U-40, wick off the excess - 2 coats...