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Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
tolan furusho
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Date: December 21, 2007 01:07PM
Very new to the world of Rod building. I was wondering if blanks for casting rods are different than blanks for spinning rods. And, if so, how do they differ.
Thanks guys. Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
Jim Gamble
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Date: December 21, 2007 01:26PM
No difference, to a degree. Many blanks ARE specified casting or spinning, but you will find a great many more that are either NOT classified OR classified as being for both.
The real issue is taper, length, etc. and whether it will meet your needs. There are quite a few "casting" blanks that I make spinning rods from AND a few "spinning" blanks that I make into casting rods. This is one of those ... "If it feels good, do it" type of things. Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
Ken Preston
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Date: December 21, 2007 01:29PM
Personally I don't pay much attention to what a manufacturer calls his line-up of rods. I look for information about the blank = butt / tip diameter; length; line rating; lure rating; material used for the blank (fiberglass - E / S-glas; "composite"; graphite IM number ); and aesthetically only the color of the blank and it's finish (matte, transluscent, gloss). I know that the manufacturers put a lot of time / thought into "what would make a good rod taper" and I applaud them for the wide range that each provides and giving us a starting point by classifying them as to potential use - but in reality I doubt that piece of woven roving cares what name it's called. Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
tolan furusho
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Date: December 21, 2007 01:29PM
Thank you for answering my question. Greatly appreciate it. Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
Ken Preston
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Date: December 21, 2007 01:35PM
Ohhh - forgot! Another think that I've learned to use as "leverage" is the NUMBER assigned to the blank = such as, say SP845 or CS845 - seems the 845 number normally equates to the mandrel that the blank was rolled on..... If I'm wrong about this I am happy to be corrected - might actually make for a whole new "string" for discussion. Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
Jim Gamble
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Date: December 21, 2007 02:01PM
Sorry Ken ... it doesn't work that way. For example, a P844-GL2 is NOT the same as a MB844-GLX or a MU844. The ONLY thing those numbers represent is length and power (as related to THAT category and THAT manufacturer's potentially liberal opinion). Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
Ken Preston
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Date: December 21, 2007 02:55PM
Thanks, Jim. Always happy to learn Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
J.B. Hunt
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Date: December 21, 2007 05:32PM
Wait a minute Jim ! Don't leave yet. Now you have my curiosity aroused. Are these numbers like "845" universal in any way. What exactly does each digit stand for ? I can't see the length in there anywhere unless it would be 8' 4" and #5 power ????? elaborate some more. I'll bet I'm not the only one curious. J.B.Hunt Bowling Green, KY Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
Lance Dupre
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Date: December 21, 2007 05:42PM
844..........84" 4 Power Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
Spencer Phipps
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Date: December 21, 2007 05:58PM
The number are not universal, a 4 power mag bass is no where near the same as a 4 power popping blank or a 4 power stelhead blank. They are only fairly relative within their own group. Comparing mag bass to mag bass or steelhead to steelhead blanks are closer in relationship to each other. Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
Mike Barkley
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Date: December 21, 2007 07:07PM
Most use the inches then power but St Croix use ft, in, power, action 3S66MLF SC III 6' 6" med/light-fast Mike (Southgate, MI) If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!! Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
William Bartlett
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Date: December 21, 2007 07:21PM
I'll mirror Jim and Ken's response with saying that I've always read and been told that the blank doesn't know what it's going to be. Just choose the one that fits your need specifications, then build it. Bill in WV Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/21/2007 07:23PM by William Bartlett. Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
Ken Preston
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Date: December 21, 2007 07:45PM
Interesting exercise: Considering all above (mag bass ->mag bass / trolling -> trolling etc) inches & power. Try going to MudHole & do a blank search typing in "845" in the first block. Check the line / lure ratings - probably what led me down my train of thought. Yes, you can repeat it with other numbers (keeping in mind "class of the rod". MudHole has done us all a great service with that Blank Search tool! Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
J.B. Hunt
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Date: December 21, 2007 08:39PM
Thanks guys ,good info. I am familiar with the way St Croix label theirs. But the 3 digit # I wasn't sure.
Ken, I like Mudhole's Blank Search tool also. It is very handy. Re: Question regarding blanks
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: December 22, 2007 11:14PM
Most manufacturers rate their casting and spinning rods a bit differently.
i.e. lets say that you have a certain manufacturers 6 foot medium action casting rod. Then, you get the same manufacturers 6 foot medium action spinning rod. Generally -- but only generally speaking - the casting rod will be a bit stiffer all the way through the blank, and generally have a bit more power than the same spinning rod. For example, I have had lots of requests for drift, or lindy rigging rods with a bait casting reel seat. Most manufacturers don't make the right action with the length of interest in a bait casting rod. However it is no problem getting a spinning blank in the right action, length and power. So, you will find times that for specific purposes you will want to use a casting blank - for a spinning application. There are other times where you might want to use a spinning blank for a casting application. It is really up to you and your client on the choice of a blank - with the right length, action, and power - for the specific fishing need. This is the beauty of custom rod building, you can make any blank, any way that you want it. Take care Roger Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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