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Another Spiral question
Posted by: John Whiteside (64.25.150.---)
Date: November 09, 2007 10:12PM

There was recently a rather heated debate about spirals and the effects of which side it was put on etc. The post had a lot of good info, but was filled with one person who appeared to be from another planet, so I believe it was removed.....

The post had some information that I would like to clarify... I have built several spiral wrapped rods using spacing and info gathered, but that last debate left me wondering if I could improve or should change how I law them out..... I know you can eliminate guides beacuse line burn is not an issue, but I usually keep the same number of guides as if I had wrapped conventional. On a seven foot rod I usually use 8 guides plus tip top.

My last 7' Seeker 270 rod I wrapped was spaced as follows:

The first guide was 45.5 inches from the tip and on top and 20 inches up from the reel seat
The next guide was 90 degrees to the left and at 38.5 inches from tip
The next guide was 180 degrees (bottom) and at 31 inches from tip
all other guides were on bottom up through the tip.

From what I was reading the desired method would be to put the first guide at 45.5 inches, and the second guide 180 degrees (Bottom) 38.5 inches and then put a bumper guide between these two at 110 degrees? There is only seveninches between those two guides, so a bumpers would only be 3.5 inches from each? Would that be to fast of a transition?

Would the whole bumper guide thing only apply if I were to reduce the total number of guides? In my transition I used the bumper guide as one of my guides.

I used a smaller diameter as a bumper because I want it close to the blank and such, but I do keep it in my spacing.

Thanks for any info......

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Re: Another Spiral question
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: November 09, 2007 10:43PM

You need to read the article on the Simple Spiral and the Bumper - you don't quite have it.

There is no transition with the Simple Spiral. The line just goes pretty much where it would go naturally if you let it instead of forcing it to stay up on top of the rod. You're not taking it to the bottom of the rod - you're just letting it go there. The Bumper guide serves only to keep the line from rubbing the rod blank as the it passes by on one side. The rod would function just as well without it, but you'd get a dull spot on the blank after awhile.

8 guides plus a tiptop would be a good place to start on a 7 foot rod. But the Bumper would not be included in that number. It's purpose puts it outside the job the rest of the guides are there to do so it's not included in the general number you'd need for a rod of that length. With it you'd end up with 9 plus the tiptop.

Again, read the article. It will answer all of your questions.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/09/2007 10:51PM by Tom Kirkman.

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Re: Another Spiral question
Posted by: John Whiteside (64.25.150.---)
Date: November 09, 2007 11:15PM

Where do I find this article? Is it in an issue of RodMaker I should order, or is it available as a simple read somewhere?

Thanks,
John

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Re: Another Spiral question
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---.ptld.qwest.net)
Date: November 10, 2007 02:00AM

Volume 8, Issue 2.

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