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Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Mark J. Mire
(---.carolina.res.rr.com)
Date: October 07, 2007 12:35PM I have built a tension device binding the spool with the following details. all thread rod metal washer nylon washer spool nylon washer metal washer spring metal washer nut I'm having problems with the spool increasing tension as I spool the thread off. Put another way: Once tension is set and I begin pulling thread off, the spool begins riding up/toward the spring, thus increasing spring tension until the thread finally breaks. It appears that maybe the metal washer and the end/beginning of the spring get pinched into the all thread rod. I will be adding teflon washers this week when the store is open and that should help solve the sputter, but in the meantime I have this problem. I'd appreciate you're input. Thank you for your time, ~Mark Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
J.B. Hunt
(---.dsl.logantele.com)
Date: October 07, 2007 12:59PM
Mark; I use the same setup as you except the type of metal washer.
I used a conical shaped metal washer off a sheet metal hex head screw , the kind that has the rubber washer under it. ( get rid of the little rubber washer ) One side of the conical shaped metal washer will fit inside the coil spring, holding the washer in place. The other side goes against a plastic / Teflon washer that is against the thread spool. I don't use a nut. I use a paper clip, the spring loaded binder type, It will stay in place thus constant tension. I never have a problem with tension changing . Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Mike Barkley
(---.try.wideopenwest.com)
Date: October 07, 2007 01:06PM
Follw Jay's advice! The large paper clips are quicker, easier and don't turn like a nut [www.rodbuilding.org] Mike (Southgate, MI) If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!! Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Jim Upton
(---.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: October 07, 2007 02:09PM
You would be better served, if you used brass washers and a nut or wing nut with a nylon locking ring in it. You should be able to get them at your hardware store. The paper clip is also very good. I use that too. Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Bill Stevens
(---.br.br.cox.net)
Date: October 07, 2007 04:35PM
If a nut is used - try the one with a locking style insert. Cut your springs to proper length and the locking nut when snugged down will not turn. Also install the spool where the thread is coming off to loosen the nut instead of tighetning with friction.
Picture of paper clip use - [www.rodbuilding.org] Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Phil Ewanicki
(---.235.78.46.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net)
Date: October 07, 2007 05:21PM
I put rubber washers - actually rubber packings for an old-fashioned faucet - in my "drag washers" next to the spool. I think this allows me to apply more tension with less side pressure on the spool. Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
J.B. Hunt
(---.dsl.logantele.com)
Date: October 07, 2007 07:35PM
The washers I use work better than anything I have tried. The red washer is a saucer shaped plastic washer comes with a little nail in it for nailing up house wrap when building a house , any building supply has them. The rim sets against the thread spool around the outer perimeter of the end of the spool (small spools ). The saucer/ conical shaped metal washer comes on sheet metal screw used for installing metal roofing.
I don't want any metal touching my thread spool, it is plastic against plastic. The white plastic tube is part of a Bic pen, I use that for a spacer when using small spools, although it's unnecessary. [www.rodbuilding.org] [www.rodbuilding.org] Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Mick McComesky
(---.244.36.42.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net)
Date: October 07, 2007 09:37PM
Mark, I use pretty much the exact same setup as you and had the same problems. The wingnut always moved. I then switched to spring clips like Mike and Bill have shown and it works perfectly Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Mark J. Mire
(---.carolina.res.rr.com)
Date: October 07, 2007 10:11PM Thanks to all, I modeled mine searching the photos of all on this forum as well as the feed back. Mike, Bill, and Jay, I like your layout, but i decided to place mine horizontally, like Jay's. I figured out some more clues. My problems seem to be with large spools. There is some play between the washer and the larger bottom hole of the spool. As the spool turns the washer plays turning the nut and eventually turning it enough to tighten the spool into a lock. So I'm thinking I need a arbor for the large spools. But, as suggested, this week I will pick up some brass and teflon washers. Thank you for your suggestions and time, ~Mark Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Jim Upton
(---.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: October 08, 2007 10:43AM
Take a piece of dowel and bore a hole in it to fit the post. Then turn down the outside to make a cone that will fit into the larger spool. Make two of these and put one on each end of the spool to hold it centered. Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Mark J. Mire
(---.carolina.res.rr.com)
Date: October 08, 2007 10:58AM Thanks Jim, That is what I figured I needed to do! I appreciate all of your responses. ~Mark Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Bill Stevens
(---.br.br.cox.net)
Date: October 08, 2007 06:27PM
Perfect arbors for all spool sizes can be found in the water faucet brass washer section of large hardware stores. Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Bill Stevens
(---.br.br.cox.net)
Date: October 08, 2007 06:38PM
When she figured out that HER kitchen cutting board was in my shop I was in deep do!
[www.rodbuilding.org] This picture has all kinds of spool tensioners on the same board for multiple use. Kitchen sink washers for larger spools on the modified Pac Bay Wrapper Use of self locking nuts for top adjustment - [www.rodbuilding.org] Gon Fishn Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Dave Hauser
(---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: October 09, 2007 11:42AM
I had something like that happening when I used springs. I dumped the spring and replaced with a pair of ring magnets where the poles are opposed. With no mecaninical connection between them, there is no tightening of loosening caused by the spool turning now. Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Mark J. Mire
(---.carolina.res.rr.com)
Date: October 09, 2007 11:48AM Thanks, do you where can I purchase ring magnets? Would Lowes or HD have them? ~Mark Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Chris Richer
(---.sierrasystems.com)
Date: October 10, 2007 12:02PM
Mark:
I use a similar setup. I covered the threaded rod with Teflon plumbing tape to smooth out the spool turning. Setup: Threaded rod with Teflon tape Metal washer nylon washer spool nylon washer metal washer spring metal washer threaded knob Locking wing nut. See [www.rodbuilding.org] for a couple of images Chris Richer Iroquois ON Re: Thread tension problems
Posted by:
Chris Richer
(---.sierrasystems.com)
Date: October 10, 2007 12:04PM Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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