To do a permagloss threadless wrap on a true UL rod that won't see more than 4 lb test if that, and using very short guide feet, how few coats of permagloss do you think can I get by with?

We're not trying to forcibly haul in 10 lb bass on 20 test here. Rather, we'll be using 2 wt fly blanks.

Thanks,
Mo



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/26/2007 12:49AM by Mo Yang.

You need to build up a coating that completely covers the guide feet. How many coats depends on how thick you apply each coating. I'd guess that you'll need at least 5 coats of reasonable thickness.

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Tom is quite correct - the amount of time you leave the product in the application cup before applying will have a lot to say. It will thicken with time. If you wait for an hour it will thicken and the resulting coat will be thicker. My advice is to apply the first coat fresh out of the can very thin and let it cure for at least three hours. If you build the coats to quickly with thick stuff the outgassing of the internal solvents will tend to form tiny tiny bubbles that will not release. You should test the procedure you use under the temperature and humidity conditions you have. Do a sample guide on a blank section and watch what happens very carefully. When you find the key in your shop you will be quite pleased with the outcome. If your humidity conditions are high there will be a lesser chance for outgassing causing bubble problems with subsequent coats.

THANKS! I plan to having fresh Permagloss - meaning very thin - for each of the coats. Five coats is it then.....

You guys are great.

Mo

Mo, I'm not sure that 5 coats of "out of the bottle" PG will work out too well. While they may hold the guides on for small fish, you also want to consider durability during handling/transport/storage. Since it looks like you are going for an absolute minimum, I would highly recommend that while you are doing this job, do a few guides on a spare blank piece or butt section (that a grip could cover later) alongside your rod in the same manner. This would allow you to test what is happening without messing up your work. After every so many coats, you can see if you can break loose the test guides to see if they are as strong as you think they need to be. Better safe than sorry, plus you'll have the confidence of actually knowing how strong they are, rather than hoping they won't fail.

Mo I think for what you are trying to do and stay light I would apply four coats fresh out of the can one day apart - and 24 hours later apply one top coat that has been allowed to thicken for two hours. The fresh coats will only require a few drops of the Perma Gloss. For the top coat take a look at the picture link attached. The shot glass is used to allow the material to "thicken". Put it in the glass a few drops and place a plastic or glass cover over the top. It can be used for up to three hours dependent on the humidity and seal on the top of the glass.

[www.rodbuilding.org]

After you apply all coats please wait for five days before you try to yank the guides off to insure full cure.