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Guides for a 4 weight
Posted by: Tom Lusis (---.cpe.net.cable.roger)
Date: June 02, 2007 08:42AM

Hello all. I am putting together a 8'6" four weight and was hoping to get some recommendations regarding guide size selection. What type of guide sequence do you typically use in terms of alconite and TiCH single foot guides?
thanks,
Tom

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Re: Guides for a 4 weight
Posted by: Fred Halfheimers (---.milwpc.com)
Date: June 02, 2007 08:50AM

Go to the St. Croix web site,,, they give you guide layout and sizes on just about every size and type of rod.

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Re: Guides for a 4 weight
Posted by: Andrew White (---.ks.ks.cox.net)
Date: June 02, 2007 05:43PM

For Alconites, I would go with BLAG8, BLAG8 (4" from the first), BLAG7, then BLAG6s the rest of the way to the tip. 8s are plenty large enough to be butt guides when using a 4 wt. line. You could also go up to a 10, if the 8 seems to small. A sz. 10 might help a little, if the rod needed to cast a really long ways. But, in my experience, the 8s do just as well as the 10s.

Don't know anything about the wire guides.

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Re: Guides for a 4 weight
Posted by: Bill Beall (---.always-online.wispnet.net)
Date: June 03, 2007 06:41AM

I like BLNAG 12, TiCH 4, 3, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, BFAT6 top. Add a BLNAG 10 if you want a tamer.

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Re: Guides for a 4 weight
Posted by: Steve Kartalia (---.ferc.gov)
Date: June 04, 2007 08:12AM

My St. Croix 4F864 has BLNAG 10, then 8 x BLAG6, then BFAT6 tip top. I used the St. Croix guide spacing for this blank model and the checked for stress distribution. It was perfect so I made no tweaks. It's my favorite and most used fly rod.

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Re: Guides for a 4 weight
Posted by: Andrew Dickinson (---.sub-66-174-79.myvzw.com)
Date: June 05, 2007 12:12AM

Hi Tom,
I would second the St. Croix spacing. Sometimes, I chage the spacing during a stress test but their spacing is typically right on. IT at least gives you a place to start. I like their guide suggestions too but usually downsize quicker than they suggest. They roccomend starting with a 12 stripper and I like a 10 and I get down to sz. 2 wire giudes as quickly as I can. If I want a rod to cast distance, I put a large loop tip on and finish with sz. 3 wire guides.Have you decided what kind of giudes you will use? This will make a difference but the general rule of thumb is get down to a smallest size you can to make a continuous "tunnel" to the tip top. Hope this helps!
Andrew

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