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Air in guides tunnels
Posted by: Paolo Cevenini (---.104-80-b.business.telecomitalia)
Date: April 26, 2007 06:42PM

Hi. I'm just watched my last finish rod under direct sunlight. I have used gudebrod regular nylon with two coats of LS supreme high build. The threads becomes translucent and now I can see that the finish haven't completely penetrate the guides tunnels. Ok, the large part of its are fullfilled, but not all. The thing happen on all guides, and I think that it isn't a problem of a gelled finish. Now, if I use the rod with this tipe of problem, can I go to other things of problem? To completely penetrate the thread what do you think about the use of 1 or 2 coats of permagloss (I make principally large carp rods)? What is the best way to do it and what is the thread changement to use permagloss instead of direct epoxy? I need yours advices. Thanks a lot.
Paolo Cevenini

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Re: Air in guides tunnels
Posted by: Jim Upton (---.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: April 26, 2007 07:21PM

Paolo; I use Permaglos as a first coat and sometimes two coats all the time. Just remember that if you are using color preserver it will seal the threads and none of the finishes will penetrate. In that case you will have to use a tooth pick and put a dab of finish at the opening and let it wick back into the tunnel.

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Re: Air in guides tunnels
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: April 26, 2007 10:04PM

If you use PermaGloss as an undercoat, make sure you allow enough time for it to cure fully before topcoating with epoxy. If you don't, the continue release from the PG can cause teeny tiny bubbles in the epoxy during the time when the epoxy is setting and curing.

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Re: Air in guides tunnels
Posted by: Lou Reyna (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: April 26, 2007 11:57PM

Apply a first thin wetting coat of finish. Work quickly so finish is as liquid as possible and has not started to gel. Apply this first coat right up to the edges of the thread but preferably not over. DEFINITELY do not go over the edge of thread over the tunnels - tunnels must stay open to vent the air bubble. Quickly turn rod guides down and let it rest like this for 10-15 min. The finish will wick into and through the thread and gradually fill the tunnel without having to poke at it with anything. If you see a bubble forming over the tunnel opening pop it.

I always start applying the 1st wetting coat at the edges of the guide by the tips of the guide feet and work towards the guide ring. This way the wicking of finish starts at the skinny end of the thread tunnel and continues to the large open end.

99% of the time the finish completely fills the tunnel on its own. Once in a great while a bubble will remain.

Lou

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Re: Air in guides tunnels
Posted by: Paolo Cevenini (---.104-80-b.business.telecomitalia)
Date: April 27, 2007 02:22AM

In your opinion, how much time I must wait enter permagloss application an epoxy? I'm in a bit difficoult to use LS high build, because it is very thick compared to flex coat I normally use. I put a drop on the angle enter the guides foot, but it level out and the thread appear in surface. Do you have any suggestion for a perfect finish with this type?

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