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Custom ideas spilling into production rods
Posted by: Jerry Chambers (---.knx.tn.nxs.net)
Date: March 05, 2007 08:04PM

I posted a picture on the photo page of a Castaway production rod. It is a split handle, split reel seat, and no fore grip bass rod. They had the rod at their booth last week at the ESPN Outdoor Show in Birmingham, Alabama.

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Re: Custom ideas spilling into production rods
Posted by: Steve Gardner (---.nc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 05, 2007 08:11PM

You know the old story. When you can't build the best at least you can copy them

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Re: Custom ideas spilling into production rods
Posted by: Ellis Mendiola (---.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net)
Date: March 05, 2007 08:40PM

I saw a rod like that at the Castaway booth this past Saturday at a fishing tackle show here in Houston. I was very disappointed in the workmanship of that rod. The cork grip was made of very poor grade cork in my opinion and I did not like the shape of it. The end of the grip where it met the rubber ring had a gap in between the cork and the check.

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Re: Custom ideas spilling into production rods
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---.ptld.qwest.net)
Date: March 05, 2007 11:48PM

The Tactical Assault and Stealth rods have been using these concepts for some time. I was told they had an agreement with Rich Forhan to use his concepts for years now.

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Re: Custom ideas spilling into production rods
Posted by: Russ Pollack (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: March 06, 2007 02:18AM

One of the pro's in a recent Florida tournament had a titanium rod with spiral wraps. In fact, he had 14 of them, supplied by his sponsor.

Uncle Russ
Calico Creek Rods

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Re: Custom ideas spilling into production rods
Posted by: Rich Gassman (71.237.10.---)
Date: March 06, 2007 09:18AM

Hi, I have a question about this post, I may be a little confused. Does this post mean that you can not built a rod with split grips and offer it for sale, or built as a spiral or simple bumper wrap and offer it for sale. Thanks for your help, Rich.

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Re: Custom ideas spilling into production rods
Posted by: Joe Hepp (205.172.107.---)
Date: March 06, 2007 09:56AM

You can build/sell anything you please. It is how you market such ideas that might get you into trouble with the lawyers.

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Re: Custom ideas spilling into production rods
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---.ptld.qwest.net)
Date: March 06, 2007 10:12AM

I think your ok as long as you don't describe it as a "Revolver Rod", or anything real close to it.

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Re: Custom ideas spilling into production rods
Posted by: Rich Gassman (71.237.10.---)
Date: March 06, 2007 10:33AM

Hi Joe and Spencer, thank you for your help. I realize I would not want to use a term that has been trademarked. I am not sure if I could reference the term bumper wrap anywhere when describing a rod for sale, would simple spiral be appropriate. I have used a rod with split grip design handle for reference when selling a rod, I hope that was OK. I am just not sure what is appropriate and what is not. Have a great day, Rich.

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Re: Custom ideas spilling into production rods
Posted by: Doug Moore (---.dllstx.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: March 06, 2007 10:55AM

These custom touches are purely aesthetic. I doubt any have been setup based on a blanks flex characteristics, type of reel and line to be used etc. I have had this discussion many times with some who have paid 300.00 plus for a rod off the shelf, then tell everyone they use a custom rod.


That is one discussion I have never lost!

Regards......Doug@
TCRds

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Re: Custom ideas spilling into production rods
Posted by: Richard Forhan (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: March 06, 2007 07:55PM

Rich, follow what Joe said. In addition, you can use any and all ideas I published in RodMaker, plus you can advertise that you build in the "Revolver style" - it's OK . My Revolver Rod (a trademarked name) - is a no-foregrip, split grip, modified reel seat, spiral wrap, baitcasting rod. The name (Revolver Rod) is mine - the ideas I have been pushing for some time - I think a few companies outside custom rod builders are starting to listen - as evidenced by their new rods, developed through "extensive research" (they read RodMaker or my book).

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Re: Custom ideas spilling into production rods
Posted by: Rich Gassman (71.237.10.---)
Date: March 06, 2007 08:50PM

Hi Mr. Forhan. I do not what to say, except thank you very much for answering my post. I did start to worry about using a split grip design there for a while. Thank you again for your reply, have a great day, Rich.

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