After many years I finally ran out of Clemen's Tie off Loop material, any suggestions on a suitable replacement or does any one know where I can get more ?

Thanks
Rich Kline C.R.

Is there a problem in using the same thread you're wrapping the guide with? If so, I'm doing something wrong.

Jay

I use Spider Wire, 30 lb, its small, soft , strong and never wears out. Got each end of it tied to a barrel swivel.



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I use Fireline.

6/20 Power Pro hi-vis yellow!!!

Best loop material EVER

DR

10# powerpro- I carried a small thread spool to my favorite tackle shop ,picked up 10 Yards for cheap!



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Gudebrod used to make a product called "G-String", back beforre Spider Wire. My one tube will last my lifetime.

Tim

Same here spectra works great and no worry about it breaking!!!!

I use Spectra or Power Pro too. The only problem I have had with regular thread is that if I make the wrap to tight, the thread breaks when I try and pull it through.

Rich Matranga
Folsom, California

Power pro tied with a red plastic bead so as I don't misplace it. I have been using the same loop over a year now.

All of the above are great ideas. You can also go to the drug store and buy Floss Threaders. They're thin plastic loops that work very well. I started using them after hearing about them on this board.

At times I have used all of the above suggestions? When using a wrapping thread. I use one size smaller than the wrap thread. For an example the wrap thread is C. I use a B or A thread as my pull thread
Good Wraps Bob

I use 6 lb Fireline and a red bead from a Carolina rig, just so I can keep up with it.

I would not like to use fireline as it is fused with a coating and I would not want that to contaminate the threads. As for the same size thread...Remember as the loop sits under the thread wraps it is doubled up already thus making it double the size of the thread your using, and doubling the size of the hole your pulling it through and only plugging this double size hole with a singel strand...but bare thread wraps stretch emensly so that double size hole will shrink back down instantaniously.

I like to use ice fishing spiderwire 5# strength 1# dia. tied in a loop. The 1# dia, even doubled is very small so the thread is held tightly and you can get way with fewer cover wraps although I don't take this to lessening to an extreme. Spiderwire is so limp, and won't remain pointy after the 1st pull, it assume a pointy look, but does not hold its pointy shape, it is easily reverted back to a nice round loop to thread the Mainthread through before the next actual pull.

I like the bead idea tied into the knot of the loop or larks headed onto the loop in the area of the knot, best tip I have heard in a while. Making a loop into a closed loop allows you to put your finger into the loop to pull it through without having to capture both ends of the pull. Saves the trouble of thinking you pulling on both loops when you only have one (which we have all done) and then have to backtrack and start again

Guys,
Those of us building heaps of rods want a material that bounces back open again when pulled through nothing worse than having to muck around opening up thread,spiderwire,fireline etc. I put a post up years ago and still swear by it Boawire 20, 30LB kink proof wire and works a treat won't get me using anything else these days.
Cheers,

Ross. therodworks.com.au

I've happily followed Ross's lead for several years now using the Boawire. I add a piece of yarn as an indicator.

Stan Grace
Helena, MT
"Our best is none too good"

Jay, I guess you and I are throwbacks or something. I use the wrapping thread also. If I lose one, I just cut another. After all, it's right there.

Royce, Although I'm not adverse to using something better, I continue to use thread pieces from the spool I happen to be wrapping with. I've only rarely have had problems with line breaking, etc., but using something thinner and stronger with a real small bead does sound worthwhile trying. I've worked in shops where some of the builders do use similar setups, but the bead revolving around the rod and the constant noise of the bead smacking against the rod drives me a little nuts.

We use 6lb to maybe 15lb line from "spare" spools of leader material. I always used to use thread from the same spool, and still do sometimes.

I like that the fishing line doesn't fray coming through.

Uncle Russ
Calico Creek Rods

We were all 1st taught to use the remaining thread clipped from the starter warp as it was not kinked yet or pre-stressed from a previous pull. I still don't like yanking a doubled over large dia thread or wire under then through the wraps. What is the dia of this 30 and 20# kink proof Boawire? I know it can also be small. The stainless wire I work with for some leaders is .010" (8# Trilene XL mono dia) sz 2 and is 27#strong. Normal nylon size "A" thread is what? .006" I still like the ideaof doubled 1# dia pulling the tag end through even if it takes me a second to slide my finger to the other end of the loop to round over the pointy end after each use.