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Permagloss over paint?
Posted by: Henry Engle (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 19, 2007 07:00PM

I want to paint some accent on a rod.. like this one here.

[www.daiwaseiko.co.jp]

I have some permagloss. I would like to coat the paint with the perma to protect the paints . Would perma be ok for this or will it melt the paint or something. I was going to use lacquer and enamel hobby type paints.

Thanks all!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2007 07:03PM by Henry Engle.

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Re: Permagloss over paint?
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.try.wideopenwest.com)
Date: January 19, 2007 07:28PM

Why not just color the Permagloss????? I'd test the PG over paint on scrap first. I would let paint cure for at least a couple days.

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

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Re: Permagloss over paint?
Posted by: Dave Gilberg (---.pghk.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 19, 2007 07:55PM

I painted a white blank with neon enamel paint and applied Permagloss for a final protective coat. The Permagloss dissolved the paint. After stripping it all off I repainted the blank with the same paint and, shen dry, sprayed a sealing coat of Krylon Crystal Clear. When I then applied Permagloss it set up perfectly. The Crystal Clear provided a good protective barrier for the paint. Even so, I strongly suggest you run a test on scrap material first. Krylon Crystal Clear or Matte Fixative will probably do the job. The Crystal Clear is glossier and I believe it is more permanent. Only use in well ventilated areas. I work outdoors when spraying paint.

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Re: Permagloss over paint?
Posted by: Henry Engle (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 19, 2007 10:00PM

Thanks guys, I tested it on something I painted days ago it melted the paint. So now I have a problem :/ . Is the Crystal Clear tough enough to just use as is or does it need permagloss over it to be durable enough for the fishing world?

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Re: Permagloss over paint?
Posted by: Dave Gilberg (---.pghk.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 20, 2007 08:58AM

I have never used Crystal Clear as a top coat. I don't think it would protect from abrasions very effectively. Permagloss is far more durable and, when applied in liquid form, provides a much thicker coating. Two low level coats of Permagloss make for very good protection from abrasions and the elements.

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Re: Permagloss over paint?
Posted by: Doug Moore (---.dllstx.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: January 20, 2007 09:54AM

Permagloss is top of the line, but I have several rods coated with 3 lite coats of spar urethane that have held up pretty well.

Regards......Doug@
TCRds

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Re: Permagloss over paint?
Posted by: Cliff Hall (---.dialup.ufl.edu)
Date: January 20, 2007 01:45PM

PermaGloss is a moisture-catalyzed (poly-)urethane formulated in a XYLENE solvent base. XYLENE is often one of the major components of mixed-solvent brush cleaners or paint removers, and that is why it often will damage a raw painted surface.

**XYLENE** is a mixture of the 3 isomers of Di-Methyl Benzene (ortho-, meta-, para-). It is very similar in properties to Toluene, then Benzene. Xylene is also called XYLOL (on tin cans of it in the hardware store), although there are no alcohol groups (R-OH) in the molecules of Xylene. Xylene is strictly an aromatic hydrocarbon. See [en.wikipedia.org] for MSDS and more extensive information. -Cliff Hall (Chemist, Bach.Sci.) FL-USA.

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Re: Permagloss over paint?
Posted by: stan mclean (---.hsd1.nh.comcast.net)
Date: January 20, 2007 07:12PM

I have used peragloss over spay paint, but you have to let the paint cure for a long time. I let my paint set for 2 weeks, probably overkill but it worked. I'm sure this has been covered on here before, try doing a search you should be able to turn something up. Good luck.

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