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No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Steve Kartalia (---.ferc.gov)
Date: November 07, 2006 03:57PM

I wanted to take a TK quote from down the list that caught my attention but apparently hasn't been noticed by most:

"Or, you can just stop using epoxy. Might as well dispense with thread as well. Neither is needed for attaching guides to blanks anyway........... Watch for the volume 9 #6 issue of RodMaker. Big changes are in the offing. "

If this doesn't make you want to subscribe, even just out of curiosity, then I don't guess anything would. I'm dying to know what this issue has in it. I've thought about super gluing guides on a blank but didn't want to risk blank damage.

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Michael Joyce (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: November 07, 2006 04:51PM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/07/2006 06:26PM by Michael Joyce.

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: November 07, 2006 05:10PM

I may very well be wrong, but I doubt you can find anything that will just "glue" a guide to a rod blank. It might stick for a while, but to hold up under actual fishing situations, well...


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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Shawn Moore (85.195.123.---)
Date: November 07, 2006 08:18PM

Some companies had come out with shrink wrap on the guides and they actually worked pretty well. I had one and I think it was an Eagle Claw. Still have it and the guides are still in place and in good shape. If you can get clear shrink tubing it might be interesting.

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Michael Joyce (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: November 07, 2006 10:12PM

Should we sell all our thread?

Mike

NERB that types with a bar of Ivory soap in his mouth.

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Lance Dupre (---.sw.res.rr.com)
Date: November 08, 2006 02:03AM

I think it's just a Cajun legend.

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Bill Stevens (---.br.br.cox.net)
Date: November 08, 2006 08:37AM

Swampland Man!!! Come on -- is the rod and pen business THAT GOOD?? At a post time of 02:30 am the only horse awake for the race should be Snoreoutloud! Flocking for High Point done - get a bigger trailer!!

Dyn N Watchn

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Arthur Mayfield (---.lax.untd.com)
Date: November 08, 2006 06:58PM

There was a very low production Howald Wonderod that used a titanium and glass ferrule and had guides wrapped with a filament of fiberglass (presumably covered with resin, rather than varnish). That's one old rod I'd love to have. Meanwhile, I kind of like silk wraps, and they give the opportunity for a little decoration. I'm sure there will be wrapless guides, but not for my rod making.

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Re:Threadless guidfes
Posted by: Michael Joyce (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: November 08, 2006 08:17PM

A rod built with "wrapless guides"??? Sure would look cool without a hint of mono or white silk...kind of like a floating guide, I seen it.

A technique like this comes about , ....and it works. Whats happens to production rods, outwrappers, thread and finish manufacterers and the like? Will they suffer or gain?

If YOU had the option of NOT having to wrap a guide....would you do it??? or stick with a traditional approach and use thread?

What say YOU?

Mike

NERB that types with a bar of Ivory soap in his mouth.

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.try.wideopenwest.com)
Date: November 08, 2006 09:21PM

I think that I'd go for the thread!!!! Obviously, I have no idea of what this method is, but if it entails anf type of glue bond, would it be removable for repairs???

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Steve Gardner (---.nc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 09, 2006 06:58AM

I like the artistic options I have with thread! So I would continue to use it. I'm not saying however that I would not try another method. It would depend on what I was trying to accomplish.

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Stan Gregory (---.dyn.embarqhsd.net)
Date: November 09, 2006 10:00AM

Same as Steve G.

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Mick McComesky (---.boeing.com)
Date: November 09, 2006 01:05PM

Though they have their place and look great when well done, I'm not a big fan of transparent wraps, such as with white silk. But something new and different is always nice to have in the bag of tricks.

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Mike Naylor (---.state.md.us)
Date: November 09, 2006 02:13PM

If it's faster and easier than using thread, and comparable in strength and durability, I'd throw my thread in the trash and smile faster than my three year old dives on a dropped Skittle.

Lets face it, thread is a PITA. Worst part of rodmaking if you ask me, and a task I'd be happy to never do again (except maybe once in a blue moon just to remind myself what a pain it is).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/09/2006 02:14PM by Mike Naylor.

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Steve Kartalia (---.155.45.34.Dial1.Baltimore1.Level3.net)
Date: November 09, 2006 02:36PM

I'm with you Mike. I enjoy laying out the handle design, guide spacing and sizes and building and assembling the components. I don't find the thread or finish work that enjoyable and I also usually make my wraps plain, single color so by not having wraps on the rod, I would not be giving up much - just a little color. Yes, faster than your three your old dives on a dropped Skittle is about how fast I'd toss my thread too - that's funny!

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: allen forsdyke (---.server.ntli.net)
Date: November 09, 2006 03:22PM

hahhahahahah you all missing the point

what goes round comes round
anyone ever heard of hucklberry finn


think of his nice rod mmmmm get the idea

$110 for a branch off some tree in the neibours yard think about it

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Re: No thread or epoxy?
Posted by: Bill Stevens (---.br.br.cox.net)
Date: November 09, 2006 08:18PM

Forrest Gump said "life is like a box of chocolates". Personally I find it quite satisfying that all the odd shaped pieces in the box do not contain hard caramel centers.

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