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Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: Darran James (---.sa.bigpond.net.au)
Date: September 08, 2006 09:06AM

Try again!

Hi guys,

I have just recently had a spiral wrap built up with guidance from Ross(rodworks)....This blank was a calstar 700xl for fishing 10kg mono and was constructed using the bumper method....

Im now looking at building up a calstar 6455 for fishing 15-24kg and was wondering if the spiral wrap is just as effective using much heavier line?

Love to hear from the guys who actually are using heavy spirals and the pros or cons associated...

cheers
Darren

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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: Michael Sledden (---.fsepg.com)
Date: September 08, 2006 09:12AM

I would use a spiral wrap of some kind on any casting rod, regaurdless of line size used.

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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: September 08, 2006 09:12AM

The heavier the expected load, the greater the benefits from a spiral wrap wil be.


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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: paul reyburn (---.boeing.com)
Date: September 08, 2006 09:50AM

they work great with heavier lines.. give it a try you will like..

NERBS

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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: Duane Richards (---.rn.hr.cox.net)
Date: September 08, 2006 10:46AM

I have the simple spiral on the heaviest casting rods I own, I'll never build another conventional casting rod for myself.

DR

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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: C. Royce Harrelson (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: September 08, 2006 10:49AM

I have never used a spiral setup, but plan to build myself one soon. With the offshore equip. the theory seems great. The width of the reel and cranking of the handle seems to want to twist even an unloaded rod and I am thinking that the spiral wrap will pretty much negate that with a fish on.

Am I correct, or do I belong in the recycle bin?

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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: September 08, 2006 11:00AM

These pictures show a GF7455xxh unlimited blank cut down for a total length of about 4'10". The one with it bent is 40+ pounds of drag if I remember correctly.

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You won't be dissapointed in a heavy spiral rod.

Jay

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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: Ernie Johnson (---.maine.res.rr.com)
Date: September 08, 2006 11:55AM

jay,

You need to smile in pictures..lol

What is the biggest fish you caught on a spiral stand up?

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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: September 08, 2006 12:31PM

That particular one was built for NC bluefins. No truely big fish on that one...maybe just over 200#.

Jay

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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: steve parks (---.mob.bellsouth.net)
Date: September 08, 2006 12:48PM

So if you spiral wrap the heavy rods there's no need for a gimbal right?

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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: September 08, 2006 01:25PM

Royce,

You are correct. The harder the fish pulls, the more the reel will sit upright.


Steve,

Correct, you can pretty much do without the gimbal for fish fighting. However, if you keep the rod in a rod holder and it's not always strongly loaded, a gimbal will keep it from swinging around due to reel weight.

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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: Darran James (---.sa.bigpond.net.au)
Date: September 08, 2006 08:47PM

Great information guys! i really appreciate your feedback.....

looks like ill definetly be looking into the spiral with the info you guys have provided so far.

regards
Darren

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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: C. Royce Harrelson (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: September 10, 2006 12:48PM

Jay, Tom----Thanks for the comfirmations-----Would have said so sooner, but neighbor FORCED me to go fishing. Oh well, sure beat mowing the lawn.

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Re: Spiral effectiveness using the heavy stuff
Posted by: Mike Naylor (---.state.md.us)
Date: September 11, 2006 11:45AM

You need a gimbal for offshore fish fighting even if you have a spiral wrap. When you fight a tuna or marlin or swordfish, those fish will often turn towards the boat and run right at you. You might have to recover 100 yards of line with no resistance whatsoever. The thumb of your left hand will be busy pushing the line back and forth to keep it off of the spool center, so you will not be able to grip the rod very firmly to keep the reel upright. Those offshore reals are extremely heavy, and a spiral wrap at this time will be doing nothing for you. The mate will be screaming at you to reel faster, the captain will be trying to reposition the boat to get you back in contact with the fish, and there is a good chance your forearms will be on fire. You will really have your hands full. Don't even think of making an offshore rod without a gimbal- you will regret it.

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