Walking through Wal Mart to pick up some rod building supplies (cheesecloth, scotchbrite, etc) I came upon a display of Gutermann 100 percent polyester thread and in awide array of colours. As one of them (an olive colour #714) would match a few rods I am currently building, I bought it. After a search through this site's archives to find out if I could use it or not, I decided to simply try for myself.

What I did was make a large wrap several inches long and 'burned' the fuzzies away. For the wrap, I coated one end with two coats of permaglass and then other end without. I then delicately burned the fuzzies away one more time. The following day (today) I applied a coat of LS Supreme over the entire wrap.

So far, I've found that the epoxy went on problem free and seems to have saturated and darkened the end without any of the permagloss, just as it normally does when I use Gudebrod thread. Note that regarding the end with the 2 coats of permagloss the thread already had saturated and darkened from the permagloss coats. The difference, and point of this post, is that the side without the permagloss unfortunately has a lot of fuzzies poking up through the epoxy while the side treated with 2 coats of permagloss doesn't seem to have any fuzzies.

I'll update when the LS Supreme has dried/cured.

I've played with Gutterman and at least with all the spools I've bought, it is very fuzzy stuff to begin with. It can be put to some use, but takes some work. Also, because of how fuzzy it is, if you are going to be playing with more than one color, it is very hard to get a clean wrap. It just hasn't seemed to be worth the trouble for me. My local stores don't carry Madeira anymore and most are not replenishing their Sulky stocks. (According to the stores, the crafters and sewers around here don't care for either one, prefering Robison Anton and Coats and Clark). Happily, I've found that both of those are pretty decent threads for rodbuilding.

That Coats and Clark 40wt polyester is good stuff! Just about all I use now. I have never found a spool with any silicone problems, and I like the way it handles. Yesterday I used some nylon, since I was wanting the garnet color. It was surprising how much fuzzier the nylon was versus the polyester.

It's been on the dryer now for almost a couple of hours. As I mentioned, the end with 2 coats of Permagloss followed by the LS Supreme has ZERO fuzzies while the end that has no Permagloss - just LS Supreme - has a LOT of fuzzies poking through the epoxy. I'm very pleased thus far with how it has turned out with the Gutermann thread. Something I've noticed is that the end with 2 coats of Permagloss is a wee bit lighter in shade than the 'untreated end' but both sides appear darkened just like with the nylon Gudebrod (saturated look, which I like as I'm not a fan of the CP look). Also, I've notice no fish eyes in the finish or problems with adhesion. Looks great. BTW, I should mention that I applied the LS Supreme on fairly thick, like the way I apply HiBuild as a "one shot deal."

Per the manufacturer....Coates&Clark Trilobal thread contains no silicone lubricants. I still always use CP with my wraps though as I am looking to retain better spool color.



Derek L. McMaster
Rohnert Park, CA

Born to Fish, FORCED to Work