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Rodbuilders Ink/permagloss?
Posted by: Duane Richards (---.rn.hr.cox.net)
Date: July 23, 2006 07:54PM

I am doing a special project and plan on drawing some musical notes along the length of a matte blue blank.

The notes will be done by hand in white Speedball Acrylic Ink and let dry. After the ink is done and dry, I'd like to permagloss the entire blank in the "two swipe method" then apply the guides and goodies and work as normal.

I know permagloss is hot stuff and I'm wondering if the ink will smear?

Anyone have any thoughts on this? / better ways?

DR

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Re: Rodbuilders Ink/permagloss?
Posted by: Fred Yarmolowicz (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: July 23, 2006 07:58PM

Duane,First try it on a scrap.The wipe usaully smears ink.I had good luck spraying PG but it was in a spray booth with extra dry air and proper breathing apperatice.

Freddwhy (Rapt-Ryte)

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Re: Rodbuilders Ink/permagloss?
Posted by: Michael Blomme (---.243.6.10.Dial1.Seattle1.Level3.net)
Date: July 23, 2006 08:13PM

Duane,

I use Speedball acrylic ink for my inscription area. Your ink will run with PG or CP. A member of this forum told me to spray the area with Krylon Art Fixative. I use two light coats and allow it to dry thoroughly. The ink remains unaffected by any finish I have tried (U-40 Epoxy, Perma Gloss, Threadmaster, and Diamondite). Joe Kassuba showed me how he applies PG over a blank with a small piece of soft cosmetic sponge with a whole cut in the center. Look him up on this forum and he will give you great advice. Good Luck.

Mike Blomme

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Re: Rodbuilders Ink/permagloss?
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: July 23, 2006 08:53PM

What you'll have to do is seal the ink with something. Krylon makes a matte coating for this type of thing that might work well for you. Color presever might also work, but even it might tend to smear the ink. I think I'd look towards a spray on sealer like the Krylon. Most art supply stores would have it.

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Re: Rodbuilders Ink/permagloss?
Posted by: Russ Pollack (---.dyn.embarqhsd.net)
Date: July 24, 2006 12:22AM

The Krylon can be had at Wal Mart and such. It does work but the ink has to be really, really dry first.

Some fo the sponsors at the left also sell specialized ink pens that can be used to draw or write on decal material, and these dry pretty quickly and take sealants very nicely. The two colors I know about are silver and gold. Check for others, too.

Uncle Russ



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/24/2006 12:25AM by Russ Pollack.

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Re: Rodbuilders Ink/permagloss?
Posted by: Bill Stevens (---.br.br.cox.net)
Date: July 24, 2006 08:41AM

I think I understand the value of hand done art but why not consider some waterslides - easy to do! Decal Connection.

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Re: Rodbuilders Ink/permagloss?
Posted by: Duane Richards (---.rn.hr.cox.net)
Date: July 24, 2006 03:54PM

Bill,

The waterslides need a topcoat to survive just like the Ink, I really wasn't interested in coating the whole blank with anything very thick, doesnt the permagloss burn up the waterslides?

Russ,

Would the Krylon matte clear be suitable for the entire rod blank? and whats the base of the Krylon? is it enamel ot laquer? I assume sanding the entire blank would be a must? How do you think the Krylon would hold up?

DR


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Re: Rodbuilders Ink/permagloss?
Posted by: Mike Naylor (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: July 24, 2006 07:00PM

I would do the writing on waterslide paper, then a thin thin coat of Krylon, apply to blank, then a thin coat of epoxy. Then just do your two wipes and you are done.

I've had permagloss eat several waterslides that I thought were completely coated with Krylon. A thin coat of epoxy and no worries. No one will notice the fine edge where the epoxy stopped except you...

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