Has anyone used single foot fly guides on surf rods? Finally getting around to building an 11'6" Breakaway for throwing plugs and spoons on the jetties and in the surf. Will size 10 Fuji SG (or LSG) fly guides be durable enough or should I stick with double foots? Fuji also has what looks to be a beefed-up bridge guide....they call it a single foot boat rod guide (LBSG)...would these be better suited?

Durable enough for what? Fishing? Or beating and banging the rod around?

Be careful on your guide sizing when building surf rods. You need a ring large enough to easily pass any shock leader knot you may have there. If you're not using one then 10's are likely large enough, but if you are using a shock leader, you may want to do some test casting and make sure that 10's won't hang the knot. On heavier rods I've had to go as large as 16's.

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Tom Kirkman Wrote:
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> Durable enough for what? Fishing? Or beating and
> banging the rod around?



>
> Be careful on your guide sizing when building surf
> rods. You need a ring large enough to easily pass
> any shock leader knot you may have there. If
> you're not using one then 10's are likely large
> enough, but if you are using a shock leader, you
> may want to do some test casting and make sure
> that 10's won't hang the knot. On heavier rods
> I've had to go as large as 16's.

1. Beating and banging.

2. No shock leaders. Mono or braid with occasional short section of light wire/cable.

I'd either use a Forhan lock wrap on a low frame single foot or stick with double footed guides in that instance.

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That's one box of choices. ... -Cliff Hall+++

I would defer to Tom on this, but I tie small knots (albright for my leaders) and have never heard even a click with 40lb leader on my Allstar 1266. I have also gone to BLG10 running guides on my most recent rods, though I used to use the BNLG10. Will you be banging the guides on the tip that much? You could try the LSGs and always go back to replace them if you found them to be a problem. If you are going to go with larger runing guides then you are going to have to use the "N" style guides.

I tie albright's too. Decided I'll try single foots, probably LSG's in size 10 although I may order some of the LBSGs too. I'm clumsy so there's always a chance of bloodshed (for me and the rod) when I'm at the jetties.

I have found single foot with the forhan wrap a must and good guide prep. No CP.

I have done BYAG to BLAG on several plugging rods and it works fine. My only advise would be to test cast your spacing with braid if you are going to fish with it. Some of the limper (sp?) braids love to get wrapped around the fly guides.