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I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Michael Friske (---.stx.res.rr.com)
Date: June 01, 2006 11:22PM

Can any one help me with patterns looking for anything other than diamonds and chevrons, please help. The more challenging the better.

Michael Friske

The secret to fishing is fish where the fish are!!!

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: June 01, 2006 11:34PM

There are crosswrap patterns in both the books by Dale Clemens
Advanced Custom Rod Building and Custom Rod Thread Art.
The later having a more in depth explanations selections.

Billy Vivona did a crosswrapping booklet and he might have a couple
left. E-mail him.

Also, I understand Tom Kirkmans book has some as well but I have
not seen it myself. ( one of these days I got to get that book!)

Flex-Coat has a couple of booklets with some fish, flag, box, and thunderbird
patterns and they are only about $5 each

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Jim Upton (---.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: June 01, 2006 11:44PM

You really need to invest in Visual Wrap. A computer program by David Boyle and available from some of the sponsors on the left. With it you can design your own patterns and use their web site and copy patterns from there as well.

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: William Bartlett (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: June 01, 2006 11:52PM

Billy40 Vivona,

If you read this, does any of your pamphlets have the Black Widow Spider wrap in it? How can I get it?

Bill in WV

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: David Boyle (---.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au)
Date: June 02, 2006 01:06AM

Look here for a sample of the patterns you can freely download for use with the VisualWRAP software:
[www.tightwraps.com]

Regards

Dave Boyle
[www.threadcentral.net]

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: June 02, 2006 01:07AM

Hi Bill,
I just got Billy's booklet today and the widow spider is not included.
I'm very very happy with this booklet!! Bravo! Billy! Bravo!

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Michael Joyce (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: June 02, 2006 04:53AM

Visualwrap.

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Michael Joyce (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: June 02, 2006 04:58AM

Billys booklet now, Visualwrap for Lori's birthday or Christmas? . Both?

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: June 02, 2006 05:11AM

Ditto!

Visual Wrap is a MUST HAVE if you want to learn how to create your own
patterns and designs or just want to be better at doing them in the first place.
Until you are able to learn just what the program can do for you you can
download patterns in the library and see them wrapped thread by thread in
front of your eyes and has step by step instructions for wrapping them.

Can be a bit intimidating for someone new to thread art but thats what the
VW site is all about as well. Help is only a click away!

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Billy Vivona (67.72.26.---)
Date: June 02, 2006 08:08AM

Mike - if you decide to go the VW route, let me know after you get it and I'll help you out. Here is a list of patterns which can be downloaded off the VW site: [www.tightwraps.com]

Bill - at some point I sent you the step by step for the Black Widow pattern. I can't believe you didn't get it, I spent well over an hour putting it together for you, editting, etc.

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: alan hutchison (209.36.159.---)
Date: June 02, 2006 01:51PM

the patterns look neat, but for a person who hasnt had much experience with thread wraps it looks awfully puzzling. I dont know the terms very well so therefore it puts a bad feeling on me that i cant do the wraps and have them turn out like they should. Can someone explain the details with a little more simplicity to them or can that not be done?

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: William Bartlett (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: June 02, 2006 02:37PM

Billy,

So sorry bud!!! I checked my saved emails, and it's there. But it's only pictures, how do I tell how many threads to wrap and where? Again, sorry, just call me thick skulled. You can email me off forum if you want.

Bill in WV

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Scott VanGuilder (162.96.169.---)
Date: June 02, 2006 03:26PM

Get one of the books like Custom Rod Thread Art, it explains things pretty well. And you get a bunch of patterns to boot, what a deal eh!

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Billy Vivona (67.72.26.---)
Date: June 02, 2006 03:42PM

Unfortunately (Fortuantely for me) CRTA is out of print.

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: June 02, 2006 03:47PM


Allen,
Get the 2 Flex-Coat wrapping booklets. Thread by thread instructions included and
very very easy to understand. After you do a few from the FC booklets the Clemens
patterns and Billy's booklet and instructions will make more sence. I think Billy did
a better job than Clemens did in the area of explanation and instructions but if your
not familiar with the terminology it can seem like greek and hen scratches.

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.try.wideopenwest.com)
Date: June 02, 2006 04:09PM

Michael, Check your e-mail!

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Michael Joyce (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: June 02, 2006 04:26PM

Alan H, one of the many great features with visualwrap is being able to see a wrap grow thread by thread, gradually, or incredibly fast. Not alot of instruction is needed if you can watch a pattern grow one step at a time. When it finishes, hit "Clear', then hit "wrap", and you can watch it again and again till you get it. No language, all visual.

Or you can learn the crosswrap language introduced in CRTA. Like...

1st Step: Small grey diamond

Layout : Middle Box-Grey
Inner Adjacent Box-Light
Outer box- Black

Sequence: Middle box -out
Inner Box - in
Outer box - out, +1

Its a great language that book introduced and it took me awhile to learn it and understand it. Lots of trial and error for me.

Seeing it happen in front of your face is a much more powerful tool, than the written word.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/02/2006 04:29PM by Michael Joyce.

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: David Boyle (---.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au)
Date: June 02, 2006 05:54PM

Alan H,

Michael J hit the nail on the head.

The vizwrap scripts aren't designed to be "read" by people (although they can with practice". They tell the software where to place threads. the power of VisualWRAP is SEEING patterns develop, hence the name...

regards

Dave Boyle
[www.threadcentral.net]

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: lori friske (---.stx.res.rr.com)
Date: June 02, 2006 05:55PM

This is for Billy Vivona...this is the female friske...was wondering if you would mind sharing that pattern for the black widow spider w/me? I think it looks really awesome. And that is pretty much what made me decide to want to start learning this craft. I thought it was THE COOLEST spider I have seen yet.

Thanks
Lori Friske :)

wishn i was fishn...at the beach! <*)}}}><

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Re: I need patterns Where can I get them
Posted by: Michael Friske (---.static.sprn.tx.charter.com)
Date: June 02, 2006 07:48PM

Just wanted to tell everyone thanks for all of the help on this thread. Mr. Barkley that was exactly what I was looking for, I had the first 30 or so pages of that but wanted the part with the more intricate designs and now I have them thanks to you. Thanks again.

Michael Friske

The secret to fishing is fish where the fish are!!!

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