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Current Guide Sizes and Spacing for a Revolver Rod
Posted by: Glen Pare (---.lyncva.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 04, 2006 09:26PM

After an exhaustive internet search I finally located a couple of Seeker BS706-S Rod blanks. I have never built a spiral wrapped rod but would like to try to imitate Rich Forhan's Revolver Rod for these blanks. I do own a copy of Powerhand Baitcasting and have read Rich's artical on the RF Lite reel seat in Rodmaker magazine as well as attended the seminar Rich gave on Sunday in Charlotte. (Rich, I was one of the last 3 guys you were talking to after the seminar). It was mentioned in the seminar that guide sizing and spacing have changed somewhat over the years as he refined the rod. I was wondering if anyone has built one of these recently and what guide sizing and spacing was used. In the book Rich mentions the 10, 8,8,8,6,6,6,6,6 and gives the spacing. In the seminar he mentions using 12 as the first guide.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, If this if covered in RodMaker V4 #2 is there any way I can order this back issue. I know Tom was starting to clean out back issues and the Rodmaker website on goes back to V5.

Glen

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Re: Current Guide Sizes and Spacing for a Revolver Rod
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
Date: March 04, 2006 11:52PM

Glen,
That's not the guide sizes in my copy of Rich's book. My shows 12, 10, 2 ea 8s, than 6s to the tip. 9 guides. Spacing 5,6,7,7,7,7(6,6,6). The ( ) are the revolver guides. I've built that blank, it is strong enough and large enough diameter to handle a full skeleton seat if you want and is pretty comfortable due to the blank dia. All but the 12 are single foot fly.

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Re: Current Guide Sizes and Spacing for a Revolver Rod
Posted by: Glen Pare (---.lyncva.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 12:19AM

Thanks Spencer.

Maybe we have different additions. I have a paper back copy I ordered a couple of months ago when I saw it advertised in RMM when Tom was running the RFLite reelseat artical.

Mine shows:

Guide 1 -- BLG10 -- 57" from tip
Guide 4 -- BLG8 -- 34.5"
Guide 2 & 3 --BLG8 -- 49.5 and 42" respectively
Guides 5,6,7,8,9 --BLG6 --27.5, 21, 15, 9.5, 4.5

Mine is showing Guide 1 at 5 degrees TDC
Guide 4 at 175 degrees with 2 and 3 making the transition.

Is your copy hardback?

Mine shows copyright 1997, First printing 1997

I am going with your spacing but if there is a later addition, I want to get it.

Thanks again for the response.


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Re: Current Guide Sizes and Spacing for a Revolver Rod
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
Date: March 05, 2006 08:19AM

I have the hard copy of the book, so yours is probably more current. My copy is at a friend's place and I just pulled the info off the sheet I have taped up in my shop. I had talked to Rich, about 2 1/2 years ago, and he had said there was some slight modifications to the system coming down the line, but I had the impression he was mostly rethinking rear grip lengths which he had pretty much standardized in the book at 8 inches on just about everything. Having just looked at George's website it looks like they have changed their thinking there.
I've always made grip lengths that fit the customer and application and used the formulas when asked to. I use the bumper system.
My revolver formulas and illustrations show the stripper at maybe -2 deg. TDC and the final revolver guide at 182 deg.
Last I looked Angler's Workshop had some of the Seeker S glass blanks.
The RF Lite reelseat looks alot like the old Berkeley Series One salmon/steelhead reelseat and I've been doing something similar with the old Pac Bay wood reelseats to lighten them up and give a big contact point for many years after buying/fishing one of the Berkeley old rods.

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