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Anyone have the weight of Fuji 25mm BYAG/CYAG?
Posted by:
Tim Collins
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Date: February 08, 2006 10:40PM
Anyone have the exact weight in grains or grams of the Fuji Alconite 25mm BYAG/CYAG? The only one I have is mounted on a rod already. Thanks. Re: Anyone have the weight of Fuji 25mm BYAG/CYAG?
Posted by:
Cliff Hall
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Date: February 09, 2006 04:21AM
FUJI: WEIGHT of SELECTED FUJI LINE GUIDES (in GRAMS) -
Courtesy of Alexander Chunikhin <[email protected]> FUJI CONCEPT J-GUIDE: BYAG-25J - 4.36g Re: guide heighth ... Dec. 4, 2005 12:06PM Courtesy of Alexander Chunikhin <[email protected]> Cliff. - No. Blue shared boxes is retail prices in Japanese yens. I have pharmaceutical scales (10mg accuracy). Weights are: YSG30J is - 5.12g, YSG20J - 2.36g, BYAG30J - 6.00g, BYAG20J - 2.66g. Does nobody haven't the scales? :)))) The Alconite-ringed Guide is HEAVIER by ~ (10-15)% than the SiC-ringed Guide in Y-frame Fuji Concept J-Series. BLAG6J - 0.19g CLAG6J - 0.20g LSG6J - 0.17g BLAG8J - 0.37g CLAG8J - 0.38g LSG8J - 0.34g BYAG8LJ - 0.38g YSG8LJ - 0.35g BYAG25J - 4.36g YSG25J - 3.87g ICYSG25J - 3.95g BYLG25 - 4.05g Regards. Alexander Chunikhin <[email protected]> CMH> Merry Christmas, ... are you in RUssia ..?... <[email protected]> Yes, I'm Russian from Lipetsk city (about 400km to south from Moscow) Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2006 07:32AM by Cliff Hall. Re: Anyone have the weight of Fuji 25mm BYAG/CYAG?
Posted by:
Matt Davis
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Date: February 09, 2006 07:16AM
I just pulled a BYAG25 out of my drawer (unprepped) and it weighs 67.5 grains.
.......................... Better to have and not need than to need and not have. Re: Anyone have the weight of Fuji 25mm BYAG/CYAG?
Posted by:
Chris Karp
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Date: February 09, 2006 09:24AM
I came up with 4.45 gr. preped, for the CYAG 25 on a triple beam Re: Anyone have the weight of Fuji 25mm BYAG/CYAG?
Posted by:
Cliff Hall
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Date: February 09, 2006 02:05PM
FUJI CONCEPT J-GUIDE: WEIGHT of BYAG-25J
4.36 GRAMS - Alexander Chunikhin, nearest 10 milligrams. 4.45 GRAMS - Chris Karp, prepped CYAG 25 on a triple beam. 4.37 GRAMS - Matt Davis BYAG25 - 67.5 grains.- (unprepped). AVERAGE WEIGHT: 4.39 GRAMS STANDARD DEVIATION: 0.049 GRAMS FRACTIONAL STD DEVIATION: 1.1% Fellows - It don't get any better than this. That is a very tight tolerance for Fuji's multi-step manufacturing processes. ... In fact, it is an error of only 10mg between Alex & Matt's values. Chrome weighs more than black paint. The darn thing weighs 4.4 grams (or 4.39 grams, and that is about one significant figure of overkill.) ... We are going FISHING, not launching ICBMs from 15,000 miles away at Tehran's Presidential Palace, ... yet, ... -Cliff Hall+++ FYI: 1.000000 grain (gr) = 64.79891 mg GR = gr = GRAINS (NOT "GRAMS") G = g = GRAMS MG = mg = milligrams = 1/1000th GRAM For a quick unit conversion, use 1 grain = 65 mg (One 5 grain aspirin tablet contains 325 mg of aspirin.) Re: Anyone have the weight of Fuji 25mm BYAG/CYAG?
Posted by:
Scott Lewis
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Date: February 09, 2006 11:21PM > Does nobody haven't the scales? ))) > Alconite is HEAVIER than SiC and Hardloy. > Regards. Alexander Chunikhin > <[email protected]> Alconite HEAVIER? That goes against everything I have read. Why can't Fuji just publish the weights of their guides and put it within .1 grams to allow for fluctuations in paint/metal? I do not believe that Alconite is HEAVIER than SiC or Hardloy in the same guide style, then again, I don't have a scale with that kind of accuracy. Re: Anyone have the weight of Fuji 25mm BYAG/CYAG?
Posted by:
Cliff Hall
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Date: February 10, 2006 07:20AM
SCOTT LEWIS -- The term "HEAVIER" here is a bit ambiguous.
Does Alex imply DENSITY -(MASS per unit VOLUME, which is usually measured in GRAMS / Milli-Liter)- or does he mean the OVERALL WEIGHT of the assembled line guide. I think that Alex is saying that the data from his weighings show that for the assembled line guide, the OVERALL WEIGHT of the SIC guide is lighter than the ALCONITE guide (and ALCONITE is lighter than the HARDLOY guide.) ... The AMOUNT (volume or more precisely MASS) of Alconite needed to make a ring in a given frame may be more than the harder SiC. It really is a moot point unless you are a material Scientist or Mat.Engineer. ... The FACT is, as Alex has shown, that the assembled SIC guide weighs LESS than the ALCONITE guide in the same J-frame series, by about 10%. And the Alconite Y-frame guide weighs less than the Hardloy Y-frame guide. Alex is Russian. His English may be a bit off in complex comparison. Maybe he means that Alconite is DENSER THAN HARDLOY. ... But you are right, Scott - and we all know - that an ALCONITE Guide WEIGHS LESS than a similar HARDLOY Guide. I will edit my Post to remove that confusion, for which I now apologize. ... Thank you, Scott Lewis, for calling this confusion to my attention. Alconite may well be less DENSE than SiC and than Hardloy, but that is unclear from Fuji's claims. Since Alconite and Hardloy are two different forms of crystalline Aluminum Oxide, that density is proprietary information which Fuji is apt to keep unpublished. Any competitor can determine it with a little work in a laboratory. But even to the custom rod-builder, the overall weight of the assembled guide is what matters, IMO. We wrap whole guides on the rod, not isolated rings. To re-iterate, for the Fuji Concept Guides, the SIC Guide weighs less than the ALCONITE Guide, and the ALCONITE Guide weighs less than the HARDLOY Guide for the same RING Size (mm) in the same style-shape frame. FUJI does NOT publish guide WEIGHTS (MASSES), but they do publish the RING OD-ID-Width and some of the RING HEIGHTS above the rod blank. A Dios, ... -Cliff Hall+++ FUJI RING HEIGHTS: [www.fujitackle.com] FUJI RING OD-ID-Width: from the drop-down menu link GENERAL INFORMATION “RING SIZE CHART†[www.anglersresource.net] For practical purposes, consider any of the Fuji Y-frame or Vee-frame guides of whatever frame metal (or color) or ceramic ring material to have the same HEIGHT OFF THE BLANK as its analogous counterpart in another series of Fuji guides. The RING OD-ID-Widths will vary slightly with ceramic material for a given ring-flange type, but not much. A "Table of Guide Masses (Weights)" is unknown to me, which is why a nice top-loading scale (+/- 10mg) is on my Wish List. -Cliff Hall+++ NOTICE that FUJI: Y-Frame RING-HT = ~ 2.0 x RING-OD V-Frame RING-HT = ~ 1.5 x RING-OD Y30 = 59mm Y20 = 51mm YSG-30J - 5.12g, YSG-20J - 2.36g, BYAG30J - 6.00g, BYAG20J - 2.66g. FUJI CATALOG, hard-copy: from the drop-down menu link GENERAL INFORMATION “CATALOG REQUEST†[www.anglersresource.net] Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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