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mate finish how ?
Posted by: Marko Arhagen (---.telenor.se)
Date: January 20, 2006 02:56AM

I am building a Rainshadow RX8+905-4 for a customer and he would like the finish to be mate as the blank, I use Flex Coat light is there anything I can mix with the finish to get it mate? What are my options?
I made a seartch on "mate finish" but nothing useful came up.
Thanks in advance.

Marko

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Re: mate finish how ?
Posted by: Cliff Hall (---.dialup.ufl.edu)
Date: January 20, 2006 05:38AM

Not “mate” finish, but “MATTE” FINISH.
Correct that spelling error, and repeat your SEARCH.
“MATTE FINISH”; [Subject + Message Bodies]
You will find DOZENS of Results, just in the last 30 days.
Expand out to 90 days or 1 year if needed.

That is not really a topic I have an interest in / follow / or have a need for, per se, so I'm not much on specifics for this one. It sounds like you want to create a matte finish on your threads and / or rod blank, ...?... Is that correct?

You may have to wind up using a satin finish urethane varnish as a final coat, but even that sounds more murky than textured. Maybe a FLAT finish? Whatever you try, make dang sure to do SCRAP-WORK on a SCRAP BLANK, or things could easily get very UGLY, and become a disaster long before it resembles something this customer (or you) will like. ... Sounds impractical to me, anyway, ... And like it could “yellow” quite a bit over time, as many varnishes do. ... Okay, I'm done surmising! ...Good Luck, Marko. -Cliff Hall+++, Gainesville, FL-USA*****

P.S. - If you don't think you can get a matte finish to work, rather than lose an interested customer, consider steering him in the direction of MARBLE-IZING something on the rod. Maybe you and he will like that idea. Or just use a nice matte finish rod blank to begin with. ...

Be careful about some brands of MATTE finish rod blanks. See:

Re: Blank Flaw? ... Andy Dear ... Jan. 12, 2006 10:20PM
[www.rodbuilding.org]
The MATTE finish on most St. Croix blanks is VERY tender, and will wipe off with ALCOHOL (EtOH or IPA), or any stronger solvent. I asked a St. Croix employee about this one time, and his response was “Why would you wipe a blank with alcohol?” [Epoxy clean-up!] It doesn't matter if it's a low end blank, or an SC-V – the matte finish is just not durable at all. -Andy Dear, Lamar Mfg.

Re: Blank Flaw? ... Charles Clayton ... Jan. 12, 2006 10:25PM
[www.rodbuilding.org]
Alcohol will take the shine off a lot a car lacquers and even powder-coated metal. It’s generally safe, but it’s always a good idea to test the butt of the blank first when you plan to use it. –Regards, Charles Clayton.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/20/2006 06:37AM by Cliff Hall.

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Re: mate finish how ?
Posted by: Tim Stephens (---.245.108.176.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net)
Date: January 20, 2006 07:36AM

I would try testing ultra fine autofinishing sandpapers, 1500 to 3000 grit. It will just take the shine off the gloss. Satin Varethane comes to mind as well.

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Re: mate finish how ?
Posted by: Jesse Buky (---.exis.net)
Date: January 20, 2006 08:52AM

You can get "Sanded" blanks, no finish at all, and they look just like the Matte finish. Contact Mudhole. Jesse

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Re: mate finish how ?
Posted by: Marko Arhagen (---.telenor.se)
Date: January 20, 2006 09:40AM

Thanks!

The blank is MATTE and I want the thread finish to matte as well, There is a way to do it cause I have seen it, The Rodbuilder(sweden) that knows how is not willing to share so I am hoping there is someone here that have done it.

Marko

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Re: mate finish how ?
Posted by: Randy Parpart (Putter) (---.nccray.com)
Date: January 20, 2006 09:54AM

As Tim says above, Marko. Just test it in an area or another scrap piece to get the look you want. Mask off areas of the blank when you go to do this and avoid scuffing up the blank when getting "the dull look".

Putter
Williston, ND

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Re: mate finish how ?
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (12.174.136.---)
Date: January 20, 2006 11:12AM

I recently asked this same question on matte guide wrap finishes and got one answer. Klasskote makes a finish. I am not sure on the size bottles they offer. I'd like to try some, but don't want to buy too much in case I don't like it.

Personally thinking about the CTS matte blanks with matte wraps and some of Andy's burnt burl. Kinda dark I know, but very stealthy.

Jay

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Re: mate finish how ?
Posted by: Don Davis (---.ssa.gov)
Date: January 20, 2006 06:09PM

Use a very fine sandpaper, 2000 grit or so, and the epoxy wraps will be very matte in appearance. The Klass Kote 2 part epoxy paint comes in a gloss and a satin. You can also use satin Wipe On polyurethane. If you just cover the threads (about 5 coats) it will look pretty dull over most colors and may be the style your customer wants. No matter what you do, rry it off blank first. Don

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Re: mate finish how ?
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.an2.nyc41.da.uu.net)
Date: January 20, 2006 09:26PM

Have not done it but you could put the last coat on as a semi-gloss or flat spar urethain ??

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Re: mate finish how ?
Posted by: Marko Arhagen (---.telia.com)
Date: January 21, 2006 03:21PM

Thanks you all!

Guess i have some testing to do!

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Re: mate finish how ?
Posted by: William Bartlett (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: January 21, 2006 11:11PM

You might also try the WHITE ultrafine ScotchBrite pad. Supposed to be like 0000 Steel Wool.

Bill in WV

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