Holy cow what a mess! Yeah, I read all the articles and the material that came with the DonJer kit & set up a plastic lined collection box . Paid attention to "glue and then more glue" ... "flock and then flock again" . Well, now I'll seriously watch Bill Stevens in Charlotte - maybe even twice. I've got that stuff like EVERYWHERE in the shop. Of course I can't do much about it for the next two / three days while this all sets up. Oh, the grip? Sure looks nice! 1/ Shoulda used an airgun instead of the yellow duster canister that came with the kit; 2/ proably could have done this with electrostatic deposition (assuming I took some serious 'think time').
Bottom line I'm happy with the way the grip looks - I'll know about feel three days from now. Question: As I was brushing on the glue I wondered if anyone had yet thought about or attempted to deposit this stuff in color bands or designs? Wrap the area with nylon strapping tape where you didn't want a deposition brush on black; remove tape & flock then ; recoat with say blue and make it look like an inlay? Any thoughts on this (like "you're nuts, cause the tape will make a horrible mess when you try to peel it off or be permanently under the glue") ?

Ken, Are you going to be at the show in Upper Marlboro next weekend? If so stop by my booth and shoot the breeze. Jesse

Not only going -- will have my own set up "goin on" ... Not sure yet what I'll have there - likely just be turning out a fishing rod and chatting with folks... and probably sending them your way for those that "just have to have it now". This just looked like a solid local show last year so will participate this year

KEN, AROUND TWENTY YEARS BACK A TACKLE REP TOLD ME ABOUT A MACHINE, DEVICE, WHATEVER THAT FLOCKED GRIPS. HIS EXPLANATION WAS THAT THE GRIP WOULD BE COATED WITH GLUE, THEN PUT IN THIS MACHINE. THE MACHINE WOULD CREATE SOME SORT OF "ELECTROSTATIC CHARGE" THAT WOULD DRAW THE NYLON FIBERS TO IT, AND MAKE THEM ENTER THE GLUE 'END FIRST'. BISCAYNE RODS FROM FLORIDA I BELIEVE USES THIS METHOD. HIS GRIPS ARE HIGH IN COST, BUT BEAUTIFUL. VERY DURABLE AS WELL. KEVIN BOGAN

Kevin,
Correct and their flocking material is longer material - actual visible nylon spikes. This material is more like dust. I'll grant that this was the first time I tried this and that I'm not the overall neatest person around. I need to work on a better containment method. "Blowing" this stuff from the shaker can was "interesting" . I started out with a light beige flannel shirt and wound up with dark grey with '"racing stripes" (clean areas) at the crook in the elbows. . This is likely a combination of inexperience, large holes on the shaker can and overly vigorous application. I just checked the grip - visually and it still looks GREAT>

Ken,

If you'll look at the photos in RodMaker again, you'll see that I did some multi-color flocked grips by the same type process you mentioned.

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But were your teeth still white? LOL!!

I got a little package today, Ken... Still messing with new toys...

Putter
Williston, ND

Thanks Tom... Duh-oh Soooooooooooooo "Homer"

Randy, Hope you can now stop buying Bics and give momma back her scissors

I agree it tends to get everywhere but the gun may actually make it worse. I try to catch a decent day and do it outside with the wind, if any, blowing in a favorable direction. A dust mask is a must no matter how careful you are, I don't like the idea of nylon in my lungs. Something you might try is going to the local hardware store and getting a storage container and modifying it into a booth. It works great for me and gives a place to put everything when I'm done.

Why don't you take your new toy to the Maryland show and "flock" Jesse! I can see him now running out of the joint with Fuzzy Furr from head to toe! I told you to wait!!

Gon Fishn

Application Of Nylon Flock - Cannister - Air Assisted Spray - Electrostatic Wand

Attend the Charlotte Flocking Workshop and you will be able to observe all methods being performed right in front of your eyes. You be the judge of the results of each method. Leave the Workshop with the information necessary to be able to repeat your chosen process in a professional manner in your shop.

A well done flocked grip is a significant upgrade to a fine custom rod.

There will also be marketing information available that will assist your sales efforts.

Bill Stevens

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Thanks
Bill Stevens

Has anybody considered doing this inside of a sandblasting cabinet such as the following from Harborfreight?
[www.harborfreight.com]
Seems like this would be the answer to the dust everywhere issue. I haven't tried flocking yet due to dust management but am considering it.

If you can wait for Bill's demo in Charlotte do so. Bill delves into every aspect of a project well before he says "I'll do a seminar". I'm sure he will have many tips, tricks and experiences to relate.... I'm also sure he'll have schematics, diagrams and such to present. He is very thourogh about everything he undertakes. Bill sent me a "you shoulda done this" email off-board that would have saved me two hours with a shop vac.

Here's what I think would be "THE" way to perform this task - which way earlier in another post I failed to explain properly when I asked about a cardboard tube for a containment system --- need something that doesn't hold a static electricity charge while the object of the flocking does. Looks easy --- and LOOKS ARE DECEIVING

www.falstad.com/vector3de/

Gentlemen

Electrostatic flocking equipment is my bread. I'm in flock business about 15 years.
I hate flock, I'm tired of him. But I know something about it.
Can I help you ?

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Electrostatic flocking, nylon flock 0.5-2mm length.

Good flocking without electrostatic is impossible, absolutely.

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Re:all
The sandblasting cabinet would be impossible to use and totally unneccessary. It seems to me that this containment thing is getting out of hand. Lets don't scare away potential new flockers. This technology is bound to get a large following in the rodbuilding community. I've been flocking for several months now and have the electrostatic flocker. I do most of my work with it, but find an occasional use for the mini-flocker. I wouldn't hesitate doing some flocking in my living room should the need arise. I simply built a large containment box from a cardboard shipping box, lined it with the plastic from a garbage sack and set it upon a handy little floor cabinet I happened to have laying around. When I want to do some flocking, I drag the box out from under the table its under (in my rod room) and just flock away. Oh sure there's a little flocking dust around and about, nothing to get excited about, I have a hardwood floor (actually its laminate) in my rod room, and the bit of wayward flocking that finds its way there is easily removed via the vaccum cleaner or wisk broom. During the operaton I get a bit of flock on my hands, but have never noticed any danger of it entering my lungs, I've never noticed any flock on my clothes and don't even wear an apron. Granted I'm not near as fastidious a person as some people I know. A good friend of mine has a wife who has stated very emphatically that none of that nonsense will ever be allowed in MY house-- she was referring to my rod room and the total chaotic appearance it conveys -- when I assured her that I know exactly where everything is -- it only seemed to aggravate her further. Just a little common sense is all that is necessary here. How neat and orderly is your normal world --( mine is a bit chaotic) thats all you need to follow, to do your flocking. If I had to flock outside there would be many many a day between flocks. This NorthWest weather just isn't designed to promote hobby's of this sort.

Ralph

Ken Preston

You are welcome! :)

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