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color preserver
Posted by:
Bill Gaude
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Date: January 13, 2006 07:47PM
Ordered some supplies with some color preserver. Got Gudebrod but thought I ordered Flex Coat. Can I use the above with Flex Coat and will it "preserve"? Re: color preserver
Posted by:
Andrew White
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Date: January 13, 2006 08:11PM
I assume that you're asking whether or not you can use Gudebrod 811 CP with Flex Coat finish epoxy. Yes you can. As far as I know, all the CPs will work with just about all the finish epoxies (assuming you're using nylon thread). I actually find Gudebrod 811 CP much easier to work with than the other CPs. Gudebrod 811 preserves as well or better than the other CPs.
If you're using silk wrapping thread, then I think you need a special CP. Re: color preserver
Posted by:
Tim Stephens
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Date: January 13, 2006 08:15PM
I will advise that I had problems with Gudebrod 811. Too thick. I have seen reports here that the thickness can be variable bottle to bottle. I thinned mine with alcohol as advised. Get the viscosity down enough to help insure penetration and should be no problem. It is like thread tension or porage. Not too much or too little, not too hot nor too cold. Find the happy median. Not too thick and not too thin, and any top coat finish will work just fine. Re: color preserver
Posted by:
Lynn Huffman
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Date: January 13, 2006 09:52PM
The Gudebrod 811 CP will work with any of the epoxy finishes and holds original spool color better than any of the other CP's now available. I normally thin the first coat about 25% with denatured alcohol, and apply the second coat at full strength. This gives you good thread penetration on the first coat, and a good sealing coat on the second coat. It also eliminates bubbles from the air trapped in the thread. Basically replaces at least one coat of epoxy and is much less sensitive to apply than epoxy. Good stuff!!! Enjoy
PS. Waiting to see the new CP from Andy Dear. I hear its supposed to be "the stuff". Lynn Huffman LH CUSTOM RODS Re: color preserver
Posted by:
LARRY PIRRONE
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Date: January 14, 2006 10:22AM
my experience with cp is that you have to saturate the thread with your first coat. you also have to seal the edges and tunnels or you will get dark areas. i use a minimum of two coats and sometimes three. i use
laquer such as testors or aerogloss with very good results even with silk. the old rodmakers from the 30's and 40's used laquer and shellac to preserve the color of silk wraps. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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