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Third time re-build (13th Dec post ) - re Don,Lou and William !
Posted by: Mal. Marlow (---.sympatico.ca)
Date: December 21, 2005 09:34PM


This is in response to the comments I received from the above ................

I would like to know the difference between Permagloss and Spar Urathane is one any better than the other. Ease of application - wearing qualities etc.etc.

Many thanks
Mal.

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Re: Third time re-build (13th Dec post ) - re Don,Lou and William !
Posted by: Randy Parpart (Putter) (---.propel.com)
Date: December 21, 2005 09:58PM

I put metal leafing on a reel seat this fall. I put 2 coats of Minwax Helmsman Spar Urethane over the leafing. I then put the reel seat in my coat pocket for a bit of a test. I work in an office, so the coat is on the back of a chair most of the day.

After about 3 1/2 weeks, there were quite a few spots worn right down to the black of the reel seat. I know Spar is really weatherproof, but I'm kinda doubting it's wear resistance, now.

I plan on re-leafing the reel seat, coating it with 2 coats of Permagloss, and then re-doing the test until wear shows through again.

Putter
Williston, ND

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Re: Third time re-build (13th Dec post ) - re Don,Lou and William !
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.250.186.63.Dial1.Weehawken1.Level3.net)
Date: December 21, 2005 10:51PM

The permagloss is hard, quick to dry, the better finish -- but a pain to use. Hot

The spar is a little on the yellow tint side. Easy to use, longer drying. Not as durable.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/21/2005 11:01PM by bill boettcher.

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Re: Third time re-build (13th Dec post ) - re Don,Lou and William !
Posted by: William Bartlett (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: December 22, 2005 12:19AM

Agree with Bill above. Plus PermaGloss has a very quick dry time and would be hard to apply the way I do it. That's why I use the Spar Urethane. I may try Permagloss on a rod soon though using my application method, just to see how it works.

Bill in WV

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Re: Third time re-build (13th Dec post ) - re Don,Lou and William !
Posted by: Derek McMaster (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Date: December 22, 2005 12:32AM

I am new to rod building as well....Only done a few rods, but I use Spar Urethane because it is CHEAP, easy to find, and when you screw up as often as I do, it is MUCH easier to remove than other coatings. I will eventually try finishes that were specifically designed for rod building, but rught now, for the money and ease of use I will stick to Spar.

Derek

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Re: Third time re-build (13th Dec post ) - re Don,Lou and William !
Posted by: Mal. Marlow (---.sympatico.ca)
Date: December 22, 2005 05:15AM


Thanks for the info on the differences of the 2 finishes !

Just last night found a product in my local hardware store made by "FLECTO" its a spray finish and a Varathane !
Its actually recommended for outdoor use. Do you think this would be more similar to the spar finish ? I think I would prefer to go with either of the products suggested from the board.by rod builders. I know spray finishes are usually easier to apply and give very good results, but I just wondered if anyone had tryed the FLECTO finish at all.

Thanks once again
Mal. Marlow


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Re: Third time re-build (13th Dec post ) - re Don,Lou and William !
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.250.39.20.Dial1.Weehawken1.Level3.net)
Date: December 22, 2005 07:14AM

Another thing to try is the Mon-O- war spar varnish. I got a can and only tried it on a piece of scrap but it did look clearer and being a marine may last longer ?? Red can

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Re: Third time re-build (13th Dec post ) - re Don,Lou and William !
Posted by: Don Davis (199.173.225.---)
Date: December 22, 2005 12:33PM

Permagloss dries way to fast for my taste. I think the easiest way to coat a blank is to wrap a coffee filter around your finger and saturate the filter over your finger tip with a quick dry polyurethane, a Wipe On poly, spar varnish, or Tru-oil. The quick dry Poly appears to be the hardest finish next to the permagloss. That said, the Wipe On poly is the easiest to use followed by the Tru-oil. All of these products can also be used for wraps, but take many more coats than epoxies.

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