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Aftcote Question
Posted by: Mike Kulick (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: November 29, 2005 10:18AM

I tried Aftcote for the first time and was not completely satisfied with it. It dries crystal clear and levels itself very nicely but I could not get it to dry 100%. I mixed about 12 batches and tried it on bare blanks and over thread and every time it was just a bit tacky. I could not get it to dry hard and tack free. Humidity and temp. was not an issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tight lines.

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Re: Aftcote Question
Posted by: Bill Cohen (---.dyn.sprint-hsd.net)
Date: November 29, 2005 10:34AM

Mike some questions. Are you using the same containers for mixing ,perhaps changing them? How long are you letting it dry? Ive heard of guys waiting 2or 3 day. If your drawing up the solutions up in a syringe could they be contaminated?

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Re: Aftcote Question
Posted by: Chuck McIntyre (---.hlrn.qwest.net)
Date: November 29, 2005 10:55AM

Just a thought here...but maybe its some of the older,initial formulation where this WAS an issue? I had read that its been revamped to better suit us rodbuilders in the way of setting and curing time. I have seen posts from others like billy V that indicate it is a better product now. Faster cure time.
Chuck

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Re: Aftcote Question
Posted by: Mike Kulick (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: November 29, 2005 11:45AM

I tried mixing it in a few different containers and let it dry for 3 days but still had a little bit of tackiness. It's possible that it is the older formula, how would I be able to tell. I tried using syringes, 3 different pairs, all brand new and measured it out with small measuring/mixing cups. No luck with any way. It wasn't so tacky that it would leave a finger print but your finger stuck for a secong and you could put a mark with your finger nail easily.

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Re: Aftcote Question
Posted by: Randy Search (---.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: November 29, 2005 11:57AM

Mike,
I use Aftcote on a regular basis and I get excellent results. But, I've found (through trial and error) a couple of things that make things easier. My routine is pretty lengthy so I don't want to elaborate here and bore everyone but would be glad to send you the info to your email address if you'd like. Randy.

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Re: Aftcote Question
Posted by: Bill Cohen (---.dyn.sprint-hsd.net)
Date: November 29, 2005 12:04PM

Mike , sounds like this is a job for AFCOTE ! Why don't you call the company and speak to a technical adviser, they are usually very helpful and if it is an old bottle I'll bet they will replace it.

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Re: Aftcote Question
Posted by: Billy Vivona (67.72.26.---)
Date: November 29, 2005 12:04PM

When you say "tackiness" - do you actually leave a fingerprint in the finish after you touch it? Or is it tacky like a brand new rubber basketball? Aftcote is very rubbery, years (I've used it for 2) later I can put a fingernail dent in the finish, 10 minutes later it looks like new. Personally, I liked Aftcote, but I have had trouble with it when transporting rods in my car or in a Bazooka Tube to Charlotte. When teh guides rub on the finish, it sometimes "chunks" a piece of finish out. Keep in mind I like a high build up of epoxy on my guides.

I've been very impressed with Andy's new ThreadMaster finish, it stays just as clear as Aftcote, adn dries hard. I haven't had a problem on my rods with cracking, but I haven't put them throuhg the ringer enough to say just how flexible it is and if it resists cracking after a lot of use.

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Re: Aftcote Question
Posted by: Billy Vivona (67.72.26.---)
Date: November 29, 2005 12:06PM

Mike Kulick Wrote:

> It wasn't so tacky that it would leave a finger print but your finger stuck for a secong and you could
> put a mark with your finger nail easily.

That is normal with Aftcote. I didnt' see this when I posted the first time above.



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Re: Aftcote Question
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (---.clis.com)
Date: November 29, 2005 03:00PM

I love Aftcote, and I have yet to use the 'new' formula. Even with the slower curing 'old' stuff I'm able to get it to set in 4-6 hours, comfortable in handling it in 6-8 hours, and have even wrapped over it with additonal thread in about 10 hours. I apply my finish in a heated room that sometimes may get to 110+ degrees. This really helps the Aftcote to cure. The stuff levels beautifully.

Jay

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Re: Aftcote Question
Posted by: Duane Richards (---.rn.hr.cox.net)
Date: November 29, 2005 05:44PM

I use Aftcote and do nothing special at all and love it. Never once have I had a cureing problem. Mine is probably the "new" stuff and it works great. My dry time at normal room temp is overnight + or -. I usually put it on late at night and take it off the turner on the AM....about 6-8 hours? and it's good to go.

DR

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Re: Aftcote Question
Posted by: Ed Grella (69.183.3.---)
Date: November 29, 2005 08:04PM

Acording to the Aftco rep at Merrick's open house, the new formula has better UV properties. No difference in the cure time. Ed

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