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Technique: Underwrapping and double wrapping guides
Posted by:
Joe Brava
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Date: September 29, 2005 12:45PM
I have been building a Stand-up tuna stick and the material layers as you progress away from the bare blank are as follows:
Blank Underwrap/Trim bands Color Preserver 1 Coat Finish Epoxy Guide Foot 1st Guide Wrap 2nd Guide Wrap Color Preserver Final Finish The reason that I sealed and finished the underwrap is that in the past wrapping on top of the underwrap I find difficult as the guide wraps seem to want to fall in the cracks of the underwrap thread. The same seems to hold true for the double guide wrap. The top wrap is difficult to pack because it wants to follow the thread contours of the under-layer. Should I just assume it is the case that each layer needs to be completely finished before moving on to the next or is there a better technique for layering-up the thread so that the top layer lays nicely? Thanks, Joe. Re: Technique: Underwrapping and double wrapping guides
Posted by:
Jim Upton
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Date: September 29, 2005 02:36PM
Joe; I put a coat of finish between the first and second guide wrap, CP also if required. You might get away with just the CP, but then I'm really not in a hurry. You can also go up one size with your thread. For example underwrap first with "A" and next with "C" over it. Re: Technique: Underwrapping and double wrapping guides
Posted by:
Lance Dupre
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Date: September 29, 2005 02:45PM
I build a lot of stand up and trolling rods and never finish each individual wrap with epoxy or color preserver. I underwrap with size A J Metallic brand thread then start my guide wrap about an eighth of an inch inside of the underwrap then wrap towards the guide foot but don't put in my tie in loop. Once I get to the foot I start wrapping over the thread back towards the beginning of my wrap then put in my tie in loop. I stop about four winds before the start of my wrap then tie off as normal. I never have any trouble wth gaps and if I do get any they are easy to pack together. I use size D on those type of rods then finish with three coats of epoxy.
Lance Re: Technique: Underwrapping and double wrapping guides
Posted by:
Bob Balcombe
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Date: September 29, 2005 03:44PM
Go with Jim's suggestion
Good Wraps Bob Re: Technique: Underwrapping and double wrapping guides
Posted by:
Lou Reyna
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Date: September 29, 2005 11:19PM
I second Bob Balcombe's technique - wrap everything, then finish.
Lou Re: Technique: Underwrapping and double wrapping guides
Posted by:
Raymond Adams
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Date: September 29, 2005 11:22PM
I learned to double wrap just like Lance Dupre and the only problem I had
was when I used to much tension. I never used any thing larger than "C" thread though. If you wish to wrap the layers separately I would suggest using a smaller gauge thread under a larger gauge. That will fix the problems you are experiencing. Raymond Adams Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it.. Re: Technique: Underwrapping and double wrapping guides
Posted by:
Joe Brava
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Date: September 30, 2005 11:52AM
I think that Ray raises a good point...when I cranked that tension down during the wrap I got the wraps to lay much better. Although more time consuming it has to be easier to finish each layer before proceding on to the next. Re: Technique: Underwrapping and double wrapping guides
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: October 01, 2005 07:55AM
Another trick is to do your under wraps in one direction -- then when you do the over wraps, turn the rod around . This way the over wrap is going across the under and not with it. Helps to stop digging in. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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