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Spiral guide clearence??
Posted by: Michael Friddle (---.triad.res.rr.com)
Date: August 19, 2005 06:58PM

Ok I’m laying the guides out on my blank for a spiral rap and I wanted to know what amount of line from blank clearance you guys are trying to achieve. I can play with different size guides to gain more but where does it end??
Thanks for your help!

"The early bird gets the worm,.. but the second mouse gets the cheese!"

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Re: Spiral guide clearence??
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: August 19, 2005 07:13PM

If I understand your question correctly, are you refering to the
height of the guide frames? Use the lowest frame you can
to affoid extra weight. You want the line not to touch the blank
thats all. On a spiral wrap or spinning rod you don't have to
worry about that much as the guides are "down".

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: Spiral guide clearence??
Posted by: John Mantele (---.oc.oc.cox.net)
Date: August 19, 2005 07:43PM

You should really mention what type of rod you are Spiral wrapping.

For Standup Spiral wrapped Tuna rods rated at 50 Lbs and above, I always try for a minimum clearance of 1/2 inch between the line and the rod when the rod is bent and under the maximun load for which it is rated.

John

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Re: Spiral guide clearence??
Posted by: Michael Friddle (---.triad.res.rr.com)
Date: August 19, 2005 07:49PM

Sorry ,it is a 40lb stand-up rod.

"The early bird gets the worm,.. but the second mouse gets the cheese!"

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Re: Spiral guide clearence??
Posted by: Jim Kastorff (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: August 19, 2005 08:04PM

On my 40# standup rods and all others I try to get about 1/4" line clearance tween the 2nd and third guides which are the ones I use to get the line under the rod. I don't like the guides to stick out any further than necessary and can't stand to see a guide at 90 deg( my early rods had that, its not necessary imo yet I still see rods like that-diff strokes for diff folks i guess) I leave on a 5 day lr trip on the boat Excel tomorrow and I'm taking 8 spirall wrapped tuna sticks from 25 to 80#-say a prayer to the fish gods for me!!!

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Re: Spiral guide clearence??
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.riogrd01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: August 19, 2005 08:04PM

I would Try to get the gap as close to Johns 1/2" as you can

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Re: Spiral guide clearence??
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: August 19, 2005 08:11PM

On a bumper wrap system, the only possible place the line could touch the rod would be as it passes the side of the blank between the first and second guides. If you install a bumper guide, you've just taken care of that problem. Unless the ring on your second guide (first guide at 180 degrees) is very small and the blank very large in diameter, the line wil come close but will never touch the rod no matter how much load or flex it experiences.

On other systems I'd think that as long as the line doesn't touch the blank under the maximum load or flex you expect, then exactly how much clearance you have makes little difference.

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Re: Spiral guide clearence??
Posted by: Michael Friddle (---.triad.res.rr.com)
Date: August 19, 2005 08:44PM

I just tried it again with a larger second ring and gained a 1/8". I now have 3/8" clearance using a 20mm stripper 16mm bumper and 16mm second. The rest are 12mm.amount of line from blank clearance you guys are trying to achieve. I can play with different size guides to gain more but where does it end??
Thanks for the help!

"The early bird gets the worm,.. but the second mouse gets the cheese!"

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Re: Spiral guide clearence??
Posted by: Anonymous User (Moderator)
Date: August 19, 2005 08:54PM

Why gain more? You need enough so that the line does not touch when the rod is under the maximum expected load. That's all you need. Anymore is just clearance you will never need and has likely been gained at the expense of larger, higher, heavier (and more expensive) guides.

In direct answer to your question, it ends when you have enough clearance to keep the line from touching the blank under full load.

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Re: Spiral guide clearence??
Posted by: Michael Friddle (---.triad.res.rr.com)
Date: August 19, 2005 08:58PM

Thanks, I will try it under full load next.

"The early bird gets the worm,.. but the second mouse gets the cheese!"

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