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Water slide decals cloudy
Posted by: steve parks (---.mob.bellsouth.net)
Date: August 18, 2005 01:57PM

I don't know what I'm doing wrong. My decals seem to be cloudy. Here's how I apply mine. First I make the decal on media from Decal Connection. Then cut it as close as possible, dip in luke warm water for about 5 seconds, apply a couple of drops water where the decal will rest and then slide the decal off the backing and onto where it will rest. I then use a wall paper roller to squeegy out the excess water. The roller is a soft foam type and conforms to the shape of the rod. Under artificial lighting the decal looks fine but once I get it out into natural sun light I can see the cloudiness. You can see the complete decal, that which is printed on and not printed on.

Anybody else had this problem and maybe a solution to it?

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Water slide decals cloudy
Posted by: Randy Parpart (Putter) (---.propel.com)
Date: August 18, 2005 02:01PM

3 possibilities...

1. Moving the decal too much; there's just very little adhesive on these things.

2. Bad water; try distilled.

3. Not putting on a glossy surface.

Putter
Williston, ND

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Re: Water slide decals cloudy
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: August 18, 2005 02:03PM

What type of blank finish (gloss, matte) I always apply mine over a coat of finish. I use Micro-set instead of water on the blank. No problems yet!!!!

Mike

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Re: Water slide decals cloudy
Posted by: steve parks (---.mob.bellsouth.net)
Date: August 18, 2005 02:04PM

Putter....I have some decals that were put on with distilled water but they also may have been moved around too much. I try not to moving much at all if I can help it. I always lay down a coat of finish before applying the decal and let that finsih sit for a few days before applying the decal.

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Water slide decals cloudy
Posted by: steve parks (---.mob.bellsouth.net)
Date: August 18, 2005 02:06PM

Mike....I may have to try that Micro-Set. I'll give Jimi an email or call about getting some.

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Water slide decals cloudy
Posted by: Jim Little (---.49.118.238.nw.nuvox.net)
Date: August 18, 2005 02:27PM

Sometimes I have the same problem. I have starting waiting a minium of 24 hours before putting the finish on and that seems to have helped the problem. And I do use Micro Set.

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Re: Water slide decals cloudy
Posted by: Eddie Hinote (12.151.198.---)
Date: August 18, 2005 03:29PM

Ditto on Jim Little's response. I tried everything to get rid of the cloudiness and finally found that I was putting the overcoat of finish on too soon. Use a couple applications of Micro Sol and wait the 24 hour period. I bet your problem goes away. Later, E..

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Re: Water slide decals cloudy
Posted by: Lance Dupre (---.sw.res.rr.com)
Date: August 18, 2005 05:01PM

I always put my decals over a coat of flex coat that has cured at least 18 or more hours. I've waited as little as 15 minutes to put my flex coat after i have put the decal in place and never had any cloudiness. The only time it has happened is when i tried to put the decal on a matte blank.
Lance

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Re: Water slide decals cloudy
Posted by: Randy Parpart (Putter) (---.nccray.com)
Date: August 18, 2005 06:06PM

I put a lamp over the decal and apply finish as soon as I can get it mixed and on the decal with no problems, too. I wasn't ever going to post this, but since ol' Lance did...

Putter
Williston, ND

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Re: Water slide decals cloudy
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.nj-01.cvx.algx.net)
Date: August 18, 2005 06:59PM

Before you put it in water --- put it on the blank - mark it some how - 1/4" tape, marker This will give you an area and good idea of where it goes so you don't have to keep moving it around.
I do this with peel and stick and they are usually a one shot deal.

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Re: Water slide decals cloudy
Posted by: eric riggs (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: August 18, 2005 07:39PM

I've had this problem only once.....I concluded (cause it's the only thing I did differant), it was beacuse I put too many coats of epoxy on top.
I put a decal on my last rod, waited 24 hours applied epoxy - no problem-clear- next day put another coat on-no problem -clear.
Put another coat on the following day and BAM...the decal looked cloudy!? I usually only put one coat of Flex coat lite on top of the decal- always without problems?!?
This decal was clear as glass until the 3rd coat- (it's the only explanation I can come up with) now it's "Fogged"?!?!

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Re: Water slide decals cloudy
Posted by: Randy Parpart (Putter) (---.propel.com)
Date: August 18, 2005 08:10PM

Jeez, that's weird, Eric. I guess I've never put more than one coat on top of one; so no experience with that at all. I think I'll try to avoid that experience, too!! LOL

Putter
Williston, ND

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