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Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
Richard Rippe
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Date: April 17, 2005 08:16AM
My son and I are making his Mom a pink rod (see Photo page). We put a coat of finish on this morning and disaster struck! You can see every single pink thread on the blank and the blank even shows through. We did a test using color preserver on the pink and you can more easily see the blank through the thread with the color preserver than without the color preserver, but we didn't add finish to our test and maybe we should have. From this test we didn't use color preserver on the rod. At least we didn't apply the finish this morning all over the butt wrap, just the section from the tie-off for the butt wrap, encompassing the hook keeper to the reel seat. So we wiped as much of the finish off that we could and we're now thinking about what to do. Maybe we should wrap another layer of pink thread, making two layers of pink??? Or take the pink thread off and use black instead. HELP!!! Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
Phil Richmond
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Date: April 17, 2005 08:42AM
Looked at photo page but didn't see it. Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
Richard Rippe
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Date: April 17, 2005 08:47AM
Phil, it's under my son's name, Patrick. It's on about page 6.
Also, put some finish over the color preserver "test" and it's looking pretty good so far. WE HATE PINK Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
sanford hochman
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Date: April 17, 2005 08:53AM
Richard,
I would just wrap black thread over the pink, making sure there are no gaps, then for safety sake, one coat of Gruderbrod 811, then one coat of finish. That should lock the color down. After that, I probably would avoid pink, and use another color, with a cp such as 811. This shouldn't take too long and would probably give you what you want. There are colors such as goldenrod, sunburst, etc, that show up in a spectacular way. Good luck. Sanford Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
Anonymous User
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Date: April 17, 2005 09:00AM
No help from me on this one - next time with pink try painting the section of blank with White Krylon Fusion Paint - Pack Pack Pack Pack Pack - - - - - - - - -Pack! I think the Guidebod people invented the Hot Pink to get us Rappers in Trouble Wif De Ladies!
Sanford, I don't trust my dentist and need an explorer - how much should I give him for a new one? Gonfishn Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
sanford hochman
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Date: April 17, 2005 09:04AM
Bill,
I probably wouldn't go over $2.00. Make sure the point is rounded. Those babies can be sharp! Sanford Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
Emory Harry
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Date: April 17, 2005 09:48AM
Richard,
You can improve the appearance of your wraps by packing them very well as was suggested above and color preserver will also help but this is a problem that you will have any time that you wrap a light color over a darker colored blank. The best solution, but it is a bit of a pain, is to paint the area of the blank that will be under the wraps with a light color. Either white or a color very close to the color of the thread that you wrap with seem to work the best. Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
Jay Lancaster
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Date: April 17, 2005 09:53AM
Richard, if you don't have any trim or inlays on your guide wraps, I would suggest adding pigment to your epoxy to make it pink. Of course if you have trim in or around the wrap this won't work as it would cover it up. The colored epoxy should fix all your guide wrap worries otherwise. The butt wrap? You may consider doing another test with your thread using multiple coats of CP then epoxy to see what that does first. It may be a case where you can add additional CP to the butt wrap before finishing. Good luck.
Jay Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
Gerald McCasland
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Date: April 17, 2005 10:20AM
I have wrapped several rods for the ladies using NCP combos of white, light blue, and hot pink on gloss finished blanks. Never never use the hot pink on you guide wraps unless as a tightly packed three thread trim wrap. I usually do a chevron butt wrap out of the three colors with a white underwrap. I always use at least two coats of color preserver after throughly packing all wraps.
Done right the rod gurantees you lots of hugs and kisses. Later, Gerald Mc Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
Anonymous User
(Moderator)
Date: April 17, 2005 06:20PM
Much like when using white, when using pink over a dark grey or black blank, you'll want to use NCP pink, pack it tightly and use CP.
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Posted by:
Mike Barkley
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Date: April 17, 2005 06:44PM
I've sometimes put down a coat of epoxy with white or another light colored pigment in it sort of as an "underwrap" and then wrap over it. I think that it looks pretty good Here is a rod I did for Cub Scouts with a yellow epoxy "underwrap". Might not help you know, but something to keep in mind!
[www.rodbuilding.org] Mike Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
Fred Duncan
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Date: April 17, 2005 09:04PM
I just did a pink wrap on a black blank. Looks cool to me. I double wrapped with A. I used rose metallic trimbands. 2 coats of CP left overnight to dry, 2 coats of HB. never would know it was a double. Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
Sam Stoner
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Date: April 17, 2005 09:04PM Richard If you've never tried marbleizing, here's your opportunity - it could be a very atrractice, quick fix to your problem. There have been tons of posts on the topic over recent months. If you haven't seen one, you can do a search of this site and find all kinds of information. If you're going for a feminine appearance to your rod, I would think a marbled look with pink as a base color contrasted with white and/or a 3rd color would be quite attractive (for ladies - I think I'll pass). The pink epoxy will be opaque and cover over the undesirable appearance you have now. I don't know if Testor's has a pick color. Your biggest hurdle could be finding the pink pigment. I agree with several of the other posts - you may need to pack your threads more tightly. I've had the same problem with white and light grey. My preference is normally CP colors but despite packing the light colors as tightly as I can, I still often don't like the results. When I a light color, I always consider NCP as my first choice. A combination of CP and NCP colors in the same wrap can be quite pleasing. Good Luck! Sam Stoner Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
Mick McComesky
(---.245.87.144.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net)
Date: April 17, 2005 10:03PM
As stated, when using light colors the best bet is to paint your layout with with white. I'm really sorry to hear that the wrap in question is in trouble as I love that wrap. tight packing and a light background are your best odds. Pack that wrap heavily and CP it. If it doesn't work, redo it with a good underwrap of light color or paint.
Be a shame to lose something so nice. Re: Finishing Disaster
Posted by:
Randy Parpart (Putter)
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Date: April 19, 2005 01:52AM Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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