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desperately seeking help...
Posted by:
Scott Lewis
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Date: March 30, 2005 07:27PM
I finished a surf rod for a customer and it came out beautiful! Diamond wrap and guide wraps are flawless. As a final step I decided to put the Lamigals water decal on the rod even though I make it a habit to not use decals. Laid out the decal, let it dry and then put a coat of Flex Coat high build on it the next day. When the finish dried I looked at the decal and it had completely lifted with the exception of a thin line down the middle of the decal. It looks pretty bad. Question. How can I remedy the situation? I can't put wraps over the area because the sticker is about three inches long and it would look like I tried to cover it up because it is between the diamond wrap and the customer's name. Can't put a decal on top because I don't like decals to begin with. Can I safely sand it down and then recoat with finish? How would I go about sanding it? Tried using a Dremmel tool with a wire brush and that seemed to take off the epoxy but I am nervous what that would do to the blank. Help me, please... Re: desperately seeking help...
Posted by:
Anonymous User
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Date: March 30, 2005 07:48PM
The only safe way to sand that area is by block sanding. Wrap some sandpaper around a wood block and and go about it that way. That will guarantee you a flat and even surface when done.
After you've done that, you can decide whether to just refinish the area, make a thread wrap over it, apply another decal, etc. ........... Re: desperately seeking help...
Posted by:
Scott VanGuilder
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Date: March 30, 2005 07:49PM
Did you try just plain peeling the epoxy off? It usually doesn't stick the blank itself that well. Re: desperately seeking help...
Posted by:
Scott Lewis
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Date: March 30, 2005 08:07PM
What grit # sandpaper would you suggest?
Thanks for you replies! Re: desperately seeking help...
Posted by:
Milton (Hank) Aldridge
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Date: March 30, 2005 10:44PM
Scott,
I use 400 then 600 then 800 Hank On The Rocks Fishing Wells, ME. Re: desperately seeking help...
Posted by:
Lou Reyna
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Date: March 31, 2005 04:06AM
Bummer. I have had this very same situation to me, also on a lami blank. All is not lost. Since then I use color preserver to bond the decal to the blank before applying finish.
I taped off the area on either side of the decal/finish with several layers of masking tape. Warmed the finish and removed the finish - used a utility knife to scrape the finish off. Yes, it is safe IF DONE CAREFULLY AND PROPERLY. I scraped off everthing down to the bare blank, the utility knife scraped everything off and i did not have to sand anything. Hold the knife exactly perpendicular and do not attempt to "shave" the material off, or make a sawing motion. Scrape only in long strokes.. I removed the tape and cleaned area with alcohol. I then applied a very thin coat of finish to recoat the area whose factory finish I had scraped off, covering area exactly to the edges of the scraped off area. Let cure while rotating. The repair edges are still visible at this point. The next day I applied another decal using color preserver. Let dry. Then recoated area with a coat of finish. This last coat's edges right over the edges of the repaired area. The repair is invisible., even under magnification. I may have another lami decal laying around if yout want it. I'll check in the morning since I am not near the rod bench at the moment. email me if you want it. Lou Re: desperately seeking help...
Posted by:
Scott Lewis
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Date: March 31, 2005 06:59AM
Lou,
Thanks for the offer for the extra decal and the advice on how to fix the rod. I tried to email you but your address comes up as "hidden". Can you send your email address to smL768@optonline.net. Thanks! Scott Re: desperately seeking help...
Posted by:
shai plummer
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Date: March 31, 2005 08:30AM
You can also use MEK to soften the epoxy and peel it off with your thumbnail , this will work especially if you only have one coat of epoxy , and not too thick . You don't have to scrub the mek on just wipe the whole area down with it and let it sit a little , then scrape a little , try to get a leading edge , and use more mek as needed . Sometimes using heat to remove epoxy also removes the paint from your blank , and sandpaper will too . Mek can also remove paint from the blank but it won't do it as fast as heat or sandpaper will. Wear gloves it's nasty stuff.
Shai Re: desperately seeking help...
Posted by:
Emory Harry
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Date: March 31, 2005 10:23AM
Scott,
In the future when you apply a large decal like the one you have applied you may want to put a decorative wrap of some sort at each end of the decal so that the edge of the wrap just covers the end of the decal with a few wraps of thread. This will hold the decal in place and hold down the four corners of the decal. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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