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Inscription problems
Posted by:
Bill Hayes
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Date: January 27, 2005 11:42AM
Hello all. I've just completed a 7' heavy action worm rod for my wife's brother-in-law. I wrote on the scuffed blank with gel pens and Sanford slim tip metallic marker, but when I tried to put the finish on, everything smeared. I'd let the inscriptions dry/set for over a week prior to finishing. Luckily, I was able to clean everything off with a bit of acetone, but I can't help but think that I didn't do something that I should have to avoid this issue arising in the first place. Suggestions? Thanks in advance .... Bill Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
Bob Balcombe
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Date: January 27, 2005 11:48AM
Did You put a color presever coat on before you put the finish coat on. You do this by making one thin horizonal pass of C/P go in one direction only.
Good Wraps Bob Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
Bob Crook
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Date: January 27, 2005 12:18PM
Or you can get a can of Krylon Crystal Clear acrylic spray, spray lightly from about 8 to 10 inches away and let dry and it won't smear. IMHO much easier than cp.
Bob Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
David A. Fuller
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Date: January 27, 2005 12:54PM
Bill, Sorry to hear of the inscription problems. Make sure the ink/paint you use is water resistant. Most will infact say so on the package. Doing this alone will prevent any second or third steps to seal, preserve or set the inscription. If the package doesn't say anything about water resistance then assume it isn't.
Good wrappin, David A. Fuller Great Basin Fishing Rods Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
Anonymous User
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Date: January 27, 2005 03:26PM
Clear spray works great. Levi Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
Gerry Rhoades
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Date: January 27, 2005 03:27PM
The easiest way to check if it smear is before you every build the rod. Write on it where the grip will be, let it dry and see if it you can smear it with your finger. If it smears then you know you need to coat it, if not, it will covered by the grip anyway. Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
Jackie Pratt
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Date: January 27, 2005 04:57PM
Shouldn't you NOT use acetone on graphite rod blanks? I think an article in the library says specifically not to do that. Only denatured or rubbing alcohol should be used. Am I wrong on this? Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
Bob Crook
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Date: January 27, 2005 06:59PM
You are right Jackie, don't use acetone. IMHO acetone should be banned for sale to the general public, it is very dangerous stuff. Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
Milton (Hank) Aldridge
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Date: January 27, 2005 07:19PM
Bill,
If you use Flex Coat rod wrap finish get the SAKURA Pen Touch Fine Markers. No need for CP or other sealer. The SAKURA Pen Touch Fine Markers might work the same with other finishes but I'd test it first. Hank On The Rocks Fishing Wells, ME. Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
Joel Todd
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Date: January 27, 2005 07:34PM
I've had good luck using the Sakura extra-fine tip paint markers as Milton suggests.I coat right over the inscription area with LS Supreme=no smears.I buy them at Michaels craft stores.Silver and Gold colors.Joel Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
Randy Parpart (Putter)
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Date: January 27, 2005 08:53PM
Sanford makes the same style, too. I used them for 15 + years before switching to waterslides. It's called either silver coat (68720 in x-tra fine tip) or gold coat (76715 in slim tip) and dries really quickly and can be coated over with finish. No muss, no fuss. Only bad thing is that with these pens, alcohol won't remove the mistakes. It takes a stronger solvent than that...
Putter Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
steve runyan
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Date: January 27, 2005 09:52PM
I use the GoldRiter pen from Veach Co quite often. They have many colors, including silver and gold. It is a "hand held writing stylus"- uses heat transfer to write on the blank. They are not cheap- about $60 retail, comes with a ton of tape for writing with. If you goof, it can be removed with denatured alcohol. Does not scratch the blank, and leaves very crisp writing. As with anything, they have a small learning curve, but are well worth it. I'm not sure if any sponsors carry it, or not. Ciao!
Steve Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
Bob Crook
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Date: January 27, 2005 11:13PM
Steve,
That GoldRiter pen looks interesting. What would you say the size of the point is , fine, medium, or? They say there is a special foil for graphite. Is that what you use or is the foil that comes in the kit ok for rods? 600 inches each of gold and silver would do a bunch of rods. Bob Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
Jeff Shafer
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Date: January 28, 2005 12:06PM
Bill,
Search on my name and you will see the type of pen I use (I'm in work and don't have the pen with me). It has a nice muted gold color (tan/gold) and doesn't smudge when epoxy is applied. My method is also outlined in my posts. Jeff Shafer Re: Inscription problems
Posted by:
Anonymous User
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Date: January 28, 2005 02:18PM
I stopped in my local fly shop last night to talk to their rod building guy about some Titanium reel seats he wants me to make for him. (Basically just a titanium version of the abel saltwater sized fly seat. More on this another time) And we chatted for nearly two hours about this and that.
He gave me a really good tip for covering the inscription. He said to use a thin epoxy and turn the blank slowly while applying it. Start by adding a large gob of epoxy to either side of the inscription and work it around the blank. Then as the rod is turning while the inscription is facing away from you use your brush to move the epoxy to the area of the inscription (moving lengthwise down or up the blank.) Then continue to add epoxy and drag it into this area. As the rod turns the epoxy should level out and cover the lettering without messsing it up. Once you have the entire area coated just remove the excess epoxy with your brush and keep it turning to level out the finish. Mark Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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