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choosing a reelseat
Posted by:
eric riggs
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Date: December 11, 2004 12:21AM
How do you measure a blank for a reelseat and relate that to a reelseat size in a catalog (Fuji NPS)? I want the reelseat to be centered on my blank 31" from the end of butt. On my blank that works out to be a circumfrence of 2.75" or a diameter of .8180567" (20.77mm) so what size seat should I be looking for? Thanks! ;^) Re: choosing a reelseat
Posted by:
Spencer Phipps
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Date: December 11, 2004 01:04AM
A 22 mm seat will be .866" ID. Re: choosing a reelseat
Posted by:
Mike Tanner
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Date: December 11, 2004 02:25AM
If you are buying the blank from the same place as the seat.I have had good luck with letting them know how far up you want the seat to set {top of butt grip ect;} and let them match it up at the shop.Mud Hole has done my last three and I was very pleased. Thanks Juan and Linn. Mike Re: choosing a reelseat
Posted by:
Cliff Hall
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Date: December 11, 2004 06:07AM
Eric -- I read your Post and checked your math. You said: "On my blank, that works out to be a circumference of 2.75" or a diameter of 0.8180" (20.77mm)." It is true that 0.8180 inches = 20.77mm. [Use a 22+mm ID.] But that would be a circumference of 2.570", not 2.750". Was this just a transpositional error, or a measurement error? If that measurement of the blank diameter is accurate, then a 22mm ID Reel Seat will be the smallest ID you can use. How was the diameter measured? If with calipers, then that is a direct measurement and should be accurate. But if the circumference was measured (with a tape), then the value of 2.75 inches is inconsistent with the diameter reported (0.8180" Diameter = 2.570" Circumference). Circumference = (PI = 3.1416) x Diameter Diameter = Circumference / 3.1416 Diameter = (2.75 inches) / 3.1416 = 0.875 inches __ INCHES x (25.400 mm / inch) = ___ MILLIMETERS (MM) 0.875 inches x 25.4 mm / inch = 22.23 MM . That would mean that a 22mm ID reel seat may be too snug, or need a little reaming, or wind up higher up the blank. Check for that typo, or check your math. LOL, -Cliff Hall- Re: choosing a reelseat
Posted by:
eric riggs
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Date: December 11, 2004 02:55PM
Cliff, Math not being my forte, and doing it late at nite....what can I say?! I did the math again, Had to use a tape-no calipers. The circumfrence is 2.75 this time I used a conversion calculator on an internet site. You were right! I got 0.875 or 22.225mm for the diameter. I wanted to use a Fuji Deluxe NPS Reel Seats with Carbon Cobra Finish. Unfortunetly it only comes in sizes 18 and 20 :^( still would like to get a fuji graphite reelseat or some such monster. I'm building on a LamiGSB136 2 MH blank and uing an Abu 7000 big water conventional reel. Any suggestions? best size so as not to run into instalation problems? Thanks! -Eric Re: choosing a reelseat
Posted by:
Cliff Hall
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Date: December 11, 2004 05:46PM
Eric - I'm glad we caught that ! Any Fuji 24MM ID reel seat should fit. If you find the body of the 24MM ID barrel to be too big for your size hands, then you may want to consider a 22MM ID. You'd have to plan on a snug fit to the blank, possibly needing to move it forward of your 31" on-center mark, and a little reaming on the tight-end. That's a possibility, but I'd get my hand used to a 24MM ID, because installation will be much simpler. My hands are comfortable with the barrel body for Fuji reel seats up to 28MM ID. My hand breadth, thumb-pinky, tip-to-tip on full spread, is exactly 9 inches. So, unless your hands happen to be much smaller, a 24MM ID Fuji reel seat is likely to still be in the comfortable range for you. Let your past experience be your guide. I gotta leave for 6PM Vigil Mass. I'll check my Catalogs for a specific Fuji reel seat recommendation later. -Cliff Hall, Gainesville, FL - . Re: choosing a reelseat
Posted by:
eric riggs
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Date: December 11, 2004 06:35PM
Cliff, You saved me some big bucks...thank YOU!!! I got big hands - long fingers so no problem there. the 24 sounds 'bout right......safe trip. -eric riggs, new york, n. y. Re: choosing a reelseat
Posted by:
Cliff Hall
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Date: December 11, 2004 09:43PM
For 24MM ID Reel Seat: Trigger Barrels: It looks like there are no Triggers on seats that large, so that eliminates that option. (22mm ID seems to be the largest). FUJI (Fuji): The DPSH-24mm ($9) has hoods that are not the stainless steel, but I think are strong graphite. They may feel warmer and less slippery during the colder fall run. In the popular DPSM series, hood colors are stainless (SS), black (B), gunsmoke (GS) or gold (G). $7-9. Length 5.40". The Deluxe DPSD series has a cushioned hood. SS-$9 or G-$12. American Tackle (AmTac): CRSD-24mm. SS-$6, B-$7, G-$8. Length 5.5". Barrel OD = 1.0625" (1+1/16th). Pacific Bay (PacBay)-SMRW: Graphite/nylon barrel, stainless steel hoods. G24mm-$3(SS). G24mm-C-$6 (cushioned). There are other options beside graphite barrels, but that's the bounds of my familiarity and time. I like to have the ole hard-copy, print Catalogs on hand, because it's easier to flips pages than to turn on the computer and slog thru web pages and hope my dial-up connection or browser doesn't lock up ! Merry Christmas & Happy rod-building, Eric. -Cliff Hall- (formerly from Queens, fishing Jamaica Bay) Catalogs consulted: Summer Moon Rod Works (SM), MudHole 2005 (MH), Angler's Workshop (AW). Prices approx. Re: choosing a reelseat
Posted by:
Cliff Hall
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Date: December 12, 2004 06:28AM
Eric: BTW, that's a nice combo you're putting together: Lamiglas G-SB-136-2MH blank + Abu-Garcia 7000 big water conventional reel. For a tip-top guide, look at a nice silicon carbide ring, like the Fuji PST or UST series. Big flange, strong ring. I couldn't find your exact blank's model #, so I don't know what your measured tip-size would be (_64ths") Think about a spiral wrap for guide alignment. The other guys around here can "guide" you thru that. If you want some citations to read: "Spiral Wrap Transitions", Vol. 6 (Issue #5). Tom Kirkman, p. 24-31. "Spiral Wraps for Casting Rods", Vol. 3 (Issue #5), Ralph O'Quinn "The Revolver Rod", Vol. 4 (Issue #2), by Rich Forhan. Go to www.rodmakermagazine.com to order back issues ($7/ea). Tom Kirkman's book, "Rod Building Guide", has information (p. 30). Dale Clemen's book, "The New Advanced Custom Rod Building" (1987), p. 197-200. These are available from most RBO Sponsors. Good luck, Eric. -Cliff Hall, Gainesville, FL- Re: choosing a reelseat
Posted by:
eric riggs
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Date: December 12, 2004 11:18AM
Cliff, You are a weath of info! I already got my guides and tip top Fuji HNSG S.I.C. heavey duty casting,20,16,16,12,12,12,12, and a Fuji UST12-16 tip top with a 16 Tube I think I would need more to do a spiral....is it that a much better way to go? I don't know to much about spiral -just recently heard about it-only seen pictures- never held one? The reel seat (due to size) seems to be a limited choice... Fuji DPSH 24 heavy duty graphite.....seems like the best? I was looking into using tennis racket grip wrap for the butt... Heard tale of it's use on another board, Sounded like it was worth giving it a try? At the very least it looked really cool! Sun finaly came out today-time to go Toggin! only 3 more days of striper fishin left in New York-even though the fall run looks like its just gettin going (wish I was in Florida)! Thanks again for all your informative adice and help! -Eric Riggs, New York, N.Y. Re: choosing a reelseat
Posted by:
Cliff Hall
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Date: December 12, 2004 01:46PM
Fuji DPSH 24 heavy duty graphite..... [my preference, threads forward] Tennis racket grip wrap for the butt... [haven't tried it yet; but sounds very good.] Spiral wrap ... will get the nod from most of the builders here. SEARCH some old posts for 'spiral wrap' to hear why. Especially see what Ken Preston, Mike Ballard, Charlie Smoote & Tom Kirkman have to say. (Oh, yeah, and don't forget 'Putter' !) You'll be glad you did, Eric. -Cliff Hall- Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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