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My first rod.. (OUCH!)
Posted by:
Mike Rexford
(---.Sun.COM)
Date: February 26, 2002 10:11AM
Hey Everyone great site! I posted this question on NCBF.com and was directed to the experts. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Well I have nearly completed my first rod and tragedy strikes. I had completed all my wraps and my first coat of finish. After a few days drying time I noticed that I thought several wraps could use a second coat of finish. So I gently sand all of them down with 600 paper and get to work. After the recommended 3 hour drying time I let the rod alone for 24 hours. To my frustration when I came back to see how pretty my work was I found that the rod had slipped while still tacky into the support felt and it dried into finish on a single wrap. Needless to say I was devastated as anyone who knows the amount of work that goes into this. My plan at this point to try and save the rod is to gently try to sand past the second finish coat back to the first layer and re finish it again. This is difficult because if I go to far I may expose the thread where it sits up on the eye foot. If this happened I will need to somehow remove the entire wrap and finish without damaging the blank. I can not be the only one who has had to remove a bad eye on a finished rod without totally destroying the blank. Any ideas or thoughts on how one might take a single finished wrap off to be cleaned up and redone? This has taken me weeks to get this point and I really don't want to give up on her. Thanks, Mike Re: My first rod.. (OUCH!)
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(---.dialsprint.net)
Date: February 26, 2002 10:23AM
At some point you just have to bite the bullet and start over. You can certainly try to save the wrap by sanding, but as you are aware it is difficult to sand these wraps. Give it a try - you have nothing to lose at this point. If you end up having to redo some of the wraps, shave the thread off the top of the guide foot (do not cut against the rod blank - only the metal guide foot) and peel the thread off. Catch an end and unwind the rest. Any epoxy left on the blank can be popped off with a thumbnail. You may find that heating with a hair dryer for a few minutes will soften it and make this a bit easier. While you're here, do a search in the archives to uncover many, many finishing techniques that could help you in the future. And no, you are not the first to have this sort of thing happen. In fact, I doubt you are among the first 10,000 to have it happen. It's part of the learning process - learning what not to do. ................. Re: My first rod.. (OUCH!)
Posted by:
Bill Doherty
(---.rdu.bellsouth.net)
Date: February 26, 2002 10:24AM
Mike, That happens! Don't panic. I do not know what epoxy you used or how thick you applied it. That info would help answer your problem alittle better, but, yes, try to sand down with 400 grit or 600 if you feel more comfortable. I would normally say, shave off the lumps of felt with a razor knife, like a #11 Exacto. Sanding might be safer for you, you do not want to get into the wraps. If the worst happens and you do mess up the threads, you can remove it and rewrap the guide on. No big deal, honest. Cut the threads on top of the foot, so you do not scratch the blank, and peel the threads and as much of the epoxy away as you can. Gently soften the epoxy that is left by heating with a hairdryer, and scrape it off with your thumb nail. Then just re-do that guide wrap. You will run into these problems from time to time. Good Luck. Let us know how it turns out. Bill Doherty Re: My first rod.. (OUCH!)
Posted by:
Mike Rexford
(---.Sun.COM)
Date: February 26, 2002 11:40AM
Thank you Tom and Bill. This is great advise. I was afraid I was going to have to toss the entire rod. I did not realize that you could actually get the wrap off after it has been finished. I will try the sanding and if that does not work will cut the wrap off. Great information about using the guide foot as the cutting surface so not to damage the blank. Thank you again for your time and guidance. Being it is my first rod I can appreciate what a learning experience this has been. Its fun but also very challenging. Thanks Guys! Mike Rexford Re: My first rod.. (OUCH!)
Posted by:
Bill Doherty
(---.rdu.bellsouth.net)
Date: February 26, 2002 11:44AM
Mike, Well there you go. I guess I was typing in my suggestions while Tom was posting his. You could not ask for a better consensus. Bill Doherty Re: My first rod.. (OUCH!)
Posted by:
Chris Roberts
(---.orf.contbb.net)
Date: February 26, 2002 06:01PM
Mike, As a fellow newcomer to rod building I feel your pain. A week ago I made the mistake of removing my third rod from the drying motor too early and the finish sagged on 6 of my guides. I saved one by sanding, but found that it was easier for me to just rewrap. The guides were actually very easy to remove. Good Luck. Chris Re: My first rod.. (OUCH!)
Posted by:
Tom Smith
(---.ne.mediaone.net)
Date: February 26, 2002 06:15PM
My favorite trick is to remove the rod from the dryer after a few hours and put my fingers right in the sticky mess (usually about 1:30a.m.). You would think I would learn after doing this once. Nope Tom Re: My first rod.. (OUCH!)
Posted by:
jeff nail
(---.unitelc.com)
Date: February 26, 2002 10:54PM
you mean you only got felt stuck and not bugs or cat hair! Boy you sure are lucky! I think everyone here has run into something like this at least once, probably more! Just hang in there. I don't think I could add anything to what was said above, so I won't even try, good luck. Re: My first rod.. (OUCH!)
Posted by:
Harold Tanner
(---.xtalwind.net)
Date: February 27, 2002 05:40AM
Welcome to the world of rod building. Rewrapping a guide for one reason or another comes up occasionally. The only thing I have to add to the above is to be very careful and don't extend the area where you remove the old epoxy. Don't be tempted to sand the blank to make it smooth like it was on your first wrap or you will have a bit of ugly that you will have to cover with thread. You definitely want the same width as before or you will have an unbalanced appearence. Capt. Harold Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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