I would like to put trim bands (3-4 threads) at both ends of both base wraps at the end of my butt wrap. I plan to try the two layer butt wrap suggested in Tom Kirkman's book. How do most people to this? Do you do the two layer wrap and then put the trim wrap on top of the two layers? Or do you place your trim bands directly on the butt wrap itself and then start the base wrap adjacent to the trim band? I am using "A" thread.

Put 'em up next to the tie off wrap and they'll all form a nice flat surface. Put 'em on top and you have an ugly lump not to mention that A bands won't wrap well on top of D.

Make them up close and next to the tie off wrap.

My opinion - rather than doing 2 base wraps at once, do one, CP/epoxy, then put the second layer over this. You'll have a smooth base to work with, and the tie off bands will be easy to do. If you try putting the tie off bands directly on the butt wraps, and use this as your tie off - if you make any mistakes there is a possibility the wrap will be ruined. With the one coat method, you'll have all threads in the wrap securely held and epoxied so you have little to worry about.

As for the bulk - there is none after a few coats of epoxy. WRapping A over D - with one coat of epoxy & a smooth base it doesnt matter.

Actually you don't need to go to all that trouble. The trim wraps are not the tie off wrap. Make the tie off wrap first and just double back on itself and wrap back down to where you started. Remember to put you tie-off loop in! Any small gaps or creases won't even show after finishing. Something about the same colors on top of each other I guess. Then just make your trim wraps up against the tie off wraps and finish all at once. Very easy to do and works like a charm.

Mike - that would require you to leave space at the ends for the trim when you double back, right?

No, not at all. just put the trim on the wrap and next to the tie off wrap. It'll be flush and everything looks like one unit after you apply the finish.

I cannot say for sure, but the wraps on the last page of the last chapter Tom's book where it shows the different wraps and things you can do once you know the basic premise all have tie-off wraps done this way. I don't know that these are done that way, but since he outlines the procedure in the text I assume they are. And they sure are smooth and slick!

I have been doing mine this way for many years and find it the easiest and best looking for me.

Yes, they were made with the method you mention. No one can tell that the tie-offs are double wraps and the trims are flush and square with the tie-off wraps.

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Mike,
Did you mean to say, "put the trim on the blank" next to the tie off wrap, rather that "put the trim on the wrap, which seems like it will leave bulk?
Sanford Hochman

On the forward tie off it may fall on the blank on the tip most side. On the other ones it should read to be placed on the wrap next to the tie off. Sorry.