Thanks!

Almost the exact same guide I think that I wanted to post. I have to see if it glows in the dark!

It does

The early ceramic guide rings got a bad reputation for easily cracking or chipping with normal handling A plastic ring was developed to be a insulator (buffer) between the ceramic ring and the guide frame to minimize damage from rough handling or bumping.

At that time the marketeers took advantage of this and called it a "shock" ring and promoted it as a new innovated feature.

Today's ceramics are tougher and more durable than their predecessors, manufacturing processes improved and other reasons caused the shock ring fall by the way side.

That is my worms eye view.

Have fun

I remember the shock ring on guides, now. Memory refreshed. I guess I didn't realize they were used on tiptops, but it makes sense. thanks again.

Chris Catignani Wrote:
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> phil sweeney Wrote:
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> > Even Clemens recommended epoxy back in the day.
> > During the build, I usually take it on and off
> > with glue sticks.
>
> Clemens mentioned the "standby for installing
> tip-top was a daub of thermoplastic ferrule
> cement" (aka hot-melt glue).
> He goes on to mention that heating a ceramic guide
> would melt or weaken the plastic shock ring...and
> he would rather use 5 minute epoxy.
>
> To be honest...I dont think I ever melted a shock
> ring on a tip top.


Dale thought out his processes, I am sure new technology is in the market to offset the thinking. I still am a big believer in how Dale thinks in building, forms a great foundation.

Chris Rosell Wrote:
> I still am a big believer in how Dale thinks in building, forms a great foundation.

Dale Clemons attributes most of his knowledge to past builders and shared publications.
In his forward to Advanced Rod Building he says, "None of us is naive enough to think that he necessarily invented the technique or was the first rod builder to ever use it."

I like to use the carbon arrow Ferr-L-Tite glue sticks, prefer the high temp [shop.bohning.com] .

Mark B

Thanks for the link, many years ago I was given a small block of that stuff and I used it on a lot of tips, it works great had no issues with it. I think it is one step above the average hot melt.

It has been a while since I have used it because I now prefer to use epoxy, it is an easier process for me.

Have fun

John