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Trying to find rod information
Posted by: Lewis McLeod (207.194.48.---)
Date: June 02, 2023 06:41PM

Is there somewhere we can look up information on a factory built rod? I'm refurbishing a Daiwa Swinger 2646 8½ ft 8wt fly rod for a buddy, and I'd like to have some idea what was done, if possible

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Re: Trying to find rod information
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---)
Date: June 02, 2023 07:00PM

What do you mean by "what was done?"

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Re: Trying to find rod information
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---)
Date: June 02, 2023 07:01PM

Have you checked with Diawa?

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Re: Trying to find rod information
Posted by: Lewis McLeod (207.194.48.---)
Date: June 02, 2023 07:31PM

I didn't even know I could do that...
I'm trying to find out if the whole blank was coated with shellac or some other finish.

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Re: Trying to find rod information
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: June 02, 2023 08:46PM

Most commercially made rods were not coated with anything beyond their paint, which in most instances was a squeegee coated epoxy paint.

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Re: Trying to find rod information
Posted by: Lewis McLeod (207.194.48.---)
Date: June 03, 2023 02:00AM

Now that I've got it stripped down as far as I reasonably need to, I've found that there is a metal sleeve underneath the grip and reel seat. The reel seat is serviceable and only needs a bit of cleaning, but the rest of this rod is going to be brand new.

I tried looking on Daiwa's website, but there aren't even any fly rods listed on there. It makes me wonder just how old this thing really is. Google didn't give me any results, either. The blank itself seems like a decent glass blank, so I've got something reasonable to work with.

Thank you for the suggestions and information, fellas :)

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Re: Trying to find rod information
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: June 03, 2023 08:46AM

Daiwa produced fly rods up through the mid 1980's, many from it's rod plant in California. It was not unusual for many manufacturers, Daiwa included, to build their handles on aluminum or carbon tubes and then glue the rod shafts into those. This allowed them to build handles in one plant and rods in another, and join then as the last step in the manufacturing process.

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Re: Trying to find rod information
Posted by: Lewis McLeod (207.194.48.---)
Date: June 03, 2023 11:18AM

That fits the description perfectly. Very interesting, thank you, Tom. I can see why this would have been a common practice for many.

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Re: Trying to find rod information
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: June 03, 2023 12:52PM

Here's something else to file away for a future repair - When they moved to exposed blank reel seats, Daiwa very used handle sleeves that were painted or patterned to match the rod blank so that when a customer looked at the rod, he wouldn't know the handle and blank were actually two separate pieces glued together. The knock, of course, was that the two-piece construction would be less sensitive than the single piece (highly doubtful) and customers would shun the rods if they knew the handle wasn't actually built and adhered directly to the rod blank itself.

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Re: Trying to find rod information
Posted by: Lewis McLeod (207.194.48.---)
Date: June 04, 2023 01:34PM

Seeing the sleeve definitely confirmed my initial suspicion that it wasn't a high end rod lol. But it means something to my buddy, so I'll do what I can to make him happy with it. Thank you for the information, Tom. I really appreciate it!

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Re: Trying to find rod information
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: June 05, 2023 10:14AM

Please don't think that because a rod is made in two parts that it isn't a "high end" rod. This construction method has been used by many well known companies and often on some of their most expensive rods. Whether the rod you have is one of Daiwa's high end models would have more to do with the materials used to make it.

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