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Iridescent finish
Posted by: Alex purvis (---)
Date: May 24, 2022 10:35AM

Hey guys,

I’m wanting to be able to put an iridescent finish on my rod where I put the label. Something that is translucent but reflects in light like oil slick in water. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Re: Iridescent finish
Posted by: Fred Zimmermann (---.raintreegraphics.com)
Date: May 24, 2022 11:00AM

I bought a box of "Roxy Epoxy" pearl tinting powder online and it comes with many different colors. Using just a little makes it very translucent, use a lot and it is opaque. I believe it comes in a solid color kit as well but the pearl kit maybe a viable choice for you.

Sorry, I forgot the link. A lot of pigments for a good price.

[www.amazon.com]



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/26/2022 11:49AM by Fred Zimmermann.

Re: Iridescent finish
Posted by: Lance Schreckenbach (---.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: May 24, 2022 12:00PM

Hobby Lobby or Michaels. You can also use Testers model paint. Let it settle for a few days then drain the clear thinner that is on top and keep the concentrated pigment. Use a little to make it translucent.
[www.michaels.com]
[www.hobbylobby.com]
[www.hobbylobby.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/24/2022 12:03PM by Lance Schreckenbach.

Re: Iridescent finish
Posted by: Alex purvis (---)
Date: May 24, 2022 12:08PM

Lance Schreckenbach Wrote:
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> Hobby Lobby or Michaels. You can also use Testers
> model paint. Let it settle for a few days then
> drain the clear thinner that is on top and keep
> the concentrated pigment. Use a little to make it
> translucent.
> [www.michaels.com]
> r-resin-color-changing-glitter/10647528.html
> [www.hobbylobby.com]
> ding-Sculpting/Casting/Sea-Epoxy-Dye-Resin/p/81017
> 028
> [www.hobbylobby.com]
> ding-Sculpting/Casting/Epoxy-Mixer/p/81021882


Would I add it to the epoxy after mixing?

Re: Iridescent finish
Posted by: Lance Schreckenbach (---.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: May 24, 2022 12:36PM

Alex purvis Wrote:
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> Lance Schreckenbach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hobby Lobby or Michaels. You can also use
> Testers
> > model paint. Let it settle for a few days then
> > drain the clear thinner that is on top and keep
> > the concentrated pigment. Use a little to make
> it
> > translucent.
> >
> [www.michaels.com]
>
> > r-resin-color-changing-glitter/10647528.html
> >
> [www.hobbylobby.com]
>
> >
> ding-Sculpting/Casting/Sea-Epoxy-Dye-Resin/p/81017
>
> > 028
> >
> [www.hobbylobby.com]
>
> > ding-Sculpting/Casting/Epoxy-Mixer/p/81021882
>
>
> Would I add it to the epoxy after mixing?
Mix epoxy then add. It will cause it to go off a little faster. Try small batches to see how much it will take to get the desired effect. The fine glitter one will not affect set time but the Testers will. I have found that the glitter ones are harder to get an even glitter spread, if that makes sense. Just a little Testers on the tip of a toothpick will be a good place to start. It also comes in a variety of metallic colors. Not sure about the dye that is shown because I just have used the Testers.

Re: Iridescent finish
Posted by: Alex purvis (---)
Date: May 24, 2022 02:51PM

Lance Schreckenbach Wrote:
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> Alex purvis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lance Schreckenbach Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hobby Lobby or Michaels. You can also use
> > Testers
> > > model paint. Let it settle for a few days
> then
> > > drain the clear thinner that is on top and
> keep
> > > the concentrated pigment. Use a little to
> make
> > it
> > > translucent.
> > >
> >
> [www.michaels.com]
>
> >
> > > r-resin-color-changing-glitter/10647528.html
> > >
> >
> [www.hobbylobby.com]
>
> >
> > >
> >
> ding-Sculpting/Casting/Sea-Epoxy-Dye-Resin/p/81017
>
> >
> > > 028
> > >
> >
> [www.hobbylobby.com]
>
> >
> > > ding-Sculpting/Casting/Epoxy-Mixer/p/81021882
> >
> >
> > Would I add it to the epoxy after mixing?
> Mix epoxy then add. It will cause it to go off a
> little faster. Try small batches to see how much
> it will take to get the desired effect. The fine
> glitter one will not affect set time but the
> Testers will. I have found that the glitter ones
> are harder to get an even glitter spread, if that
> makes sense. Just a little Testers on the tip of a
> toothpick will be a good place to start. It also
> comes in a variety of metallic colors. Not sure
> about the dye that is shown because I just have
> used the Testers.

Thanks for the response and suggestions. Do you have any photos of your builds using the testers?

Re: Iridescent finish
Posted by: Chris Catignani (---)
Date: May 24, 2022 04:35PM

Alex purvis Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hey guys,
>
> I’m wanting to be able to put an iridescent
> finish on my rod where I put the label. Something
> that is translucent but reflects in light like oil
> slick in water. Does anyone have any
> recommendations?

I have use pearl power (thats typically used form making plastic baits) and it does have a striking effect.
Its more like multi color super micro glitter then an "oil slick".
It only takes a very tiny amount.

Re: Iridescent finish
Posted by: John Cates (Moderator)
Date: May 24, 2022 04:51PM

[flexcoat.com]

Flex Coat Company
Professional Rod Building Supplies
www.flexcoat.com

Re: Iridescent finish
Posted by: Kendall Cikanek (---)
Date: May 25, 2022 12:24AM

One thing I will never do is to use the pigments in Testors hobby paint for rod building. The Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS’s) vary by color. None I’ve looked at are without at least chronic effects, and some have acute toxicity warnings. Inhalation, skin, and liver effects are common on the MSDS’s. It only made sense to settle and pour the toxic solvents off these little bottles when that was the only option. Now, pigments are available without the unwanted solvents. These “never had solvents added” products won’t damage the performance of rod finish epoxy, human and pet health, or impact soil and water quality. Voodoo Dust pigments from one of this site’s sponsors really work and come in lots of colors cogent to rod building. They come ready to use with no need for the fussy work of removing solvents that are illegal to dispose of in most states without using toxic waste collection services. I have no affiliation with VooDoo Rods.

Re: Iridescent finish
Posted by: Lance Schreckenbach (172.58.99.---)
Date: May 25, 2022 09:30AM

: Alex purvis wrote: Thanks for the response and suggestions. Do you have any photos of your builds using the testers?

Alex, I have registered for the photos page but have never gotten the confirmation email. This is one of the big problems with this site. Looks like John Cates has the answer also. I have tried and used the VooDoo pigments but only for something to be completely opaque. Please dispose of the Testers solvents in an environmentally responsible way and use in a well ventilated area. Also be aware that Epoxy Resins contain amines and isocyanides in their raw form prior to setting. Any chemical compound can be potentially hazardous so handle them safely and responsibly. I am sure most of us do and don't need to be reminded of it. I have no affiliation with Testers but have been using there colors for over 50 years (responsibly).
Lance

Re: Iridescent finish
Posted by: Kendall Cikanek (---)
Date: May 25, 2022 03:21PM

Finely ground pigments (Testors’ actual term) remain finely ground pigments, regardless of what is put in and later taken out of them. They don’t really go into solution and create liquid dyes. Buying them immersed in Testors’ added solvents, then trying to remove the solvents, just makes for finely ground pigments with contaminates that aren’t going to benefit rod finish integrity. I use Voodoo Dust in translucent building situations with results I really like. It’s possible the grind size is different between Testors and Voodoo Dust, but I can’t visually discern differences at the micron level. Twenty microns appears to be the size in some Testors’ products. Ground mineral pigments are the base of most quality paint products, and they have been for centuries. You could filter them out of old artist oil paint tubes, scrape them off a renaissance painting, settle them out of modern craft paint, or just buy them in their pure form.

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