I bought two used rods at Cape cod that I would like to turn into two piece rods. One is 11 ft one is 12 ft. Only reason is, I don't live near saltwater ,and so when I travel there,I need to break them down. They're both pretty old rods I think and they look like they were homemade because there's no identifying marks on the blanks and I see some drips around the wrappings. All the eyes are wire also. They look like they're made of fiberglass but I'm not sure. I've only made two rods myself and so I don't have a lot of experience. I would like to send some pictures if it's possible but I'm not sure how to do that here. So if anyone has any info that would help me, I would appreciate it ,thank you

It can be done but will be somewhat involved. Old style metal ferrules are the easiest way provided you can source them in the sizes you need. You can also make your own glass to glass ferrules but the work is tedious and requires great care. It's a bit much to go into on a forum post. I've written entire articles on the "how-to" and it's not something you can do in a few paragraphs.

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Eugene,
Tom is correct in that metal ferrules are the quickest and easiest way to section a blank, a direction many blindly take. But, even the really nice nickel/silver (NS) ferrules produce flat-spots in the flex-curve of the blank, and I have spent $125.00 to have a custom size NS ferrule drawn for a vintage rod. The cheap metal ferrules offered by some suppliers are just that = cheap, and in more ways than just cost; they are basically awful!
A much better approach is to employ the CARL ferrule system which was featured in RodMaker magazine, Volume 24 - Issue 3. Considering your rods have guides mounted, the ones above the ferrule would need to be removed and then re-wrapped. But the CARL ferrule system is so superior to any other that it warrants investigation. Contact my personal email if interested further.

Mark Talmo
FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE.

Eugene,
There is another option to take 2-1 piece rods and make one - 2-piece rods from them.

Essentially, you cut one rod in half and then take the 2nd rod and cut it in just the right place so that the two blanks will slip over one another and create a very nice 2 piece rod.

i.e. you sacrifice one rod to use as a parts rod to create the perfect single 2-piece rod.

i.e. The bottom half of the two piece rod will be from the rod that you cut in half.
Then, the tip section - which will be cut closer to the butt section will have a larger size at that point to create the perfect interlocking 2-piece rod.

So, when you cut the first half, you have to look at the rod blank thickness, and if the two rods are similar bank on the idea that the two rods will have a similar blank thickness.
Then, when you cut the 2nd rod, cut - what will be the tip section considerably longer than what you expect the final length to be. Then, you can keep trimming the new tip section little by little until you get a perfect overlap, with an appropriate amount of overlap to give you an excellent 2- piece rod. As you do this you would first clean up the butt section to insure that you don't have finish or thread or anything else in the way - as you do the final fit of the tip section over the butt section.

I have done this a number of times over the years and it works very well. But you will find that if the two blanks are identical or close to it, you will likely end up with different length butt and tip section as you work to get the perfect fit of the joint. -- If on the other hand, one blank is a touch larger than the first blank and use that larger blank as the tip section, you then likely have very close to the same length sections for the butt and tip sections.


Best wishes.

First, open your car door . . .

Hello All.

This is all I have on Ferrules:

Vol/Issue________Article__________________Author_________Page

6/1 Ferrule Alignment Mark Methods. By Tom Kirkman. 10
13/1 Ferrule Fitting & Restoring. By Tom Kirkman. 22
5/3 Ferrule Lapping. By Bernard Elser. 22
4/4 Ferrule Making. By Ralph O'Quinn. 22
2/1 Ferrule Mounting on Your Unibutt. 24
5/2 Ferrule Plugs. By Russ Gooding. 22
22/3 Ferrule Refitting By Tom Kirkman. 22
10/5 Ferrule Seperation Tool, Simple. By Bill Colby. 18
16/2 Ferrule Tool, Simple Say Goodbye to Stuck Ferrules Forever! By Bill Colby. 28
13/1 Ferrules Integral Assembling. 26
17/4 Ferrules Past & Present #4: Ferrules Become Collets Offshore Rods. By C. Boyd Pfeiffer. 10
11/4 Ferrules, Are Thread Reinforcement Wraps Really Necessary? 16
18/4 Ferrules, Are Thread Reinforcement Wraps Realy Necessary? By Tom Kirkman. 22
16/2 Ferrules, Making Multi-Piece. By Tom Kirkman. 12
17/1 Ferrules, Past & Present #1: When Multi-Piece Rods Lacked Ferrules. By C. Boyd Pfeiffer. 10
17/2 Ferrules, Past & Present #2: Early Metal And Swiss-Style Ferrules. By C. Boyd Pfeiffer. 10
17/3 Ferrules, Past & Present #3: Ferrules Glass to Glass & Graphite to Graphite. By C. Boyd Pfeiffer. 10
14/2 Ferrules, Past and Present. By Boyd Pfiffer. 12
4/1 Ferrules, Repairing Plug And Spigot. By Ralph O'Quinn. 16



Hope this helps.


Tight Wraps & Tighter Lines.

Bob,

New Bern, NC.

Thanks for all the info! You've given me some things to think about. My favorite was the car door one because, like a lot of us, I've actually done that one ..I looked up the CARL method and that seems like the way to go. I wish I could sacrifice one of the rods to make one good one but I don't think I could get myself to do that..
Thanks again

Thanks for all the info! You've given me some things to think about. My favorite was the car door one because, like a lot of us, I've actually done that one ..I looked up the CARL method and that seems like the way to go. I wish I could sacrifice one of the rods to make one good one but I don't think I could get myself to do that..
Thanks again

Thanks for all the info! You've given me some things to think about. My favorite was the car door one because, like a lot of us, I've actually done that one ..I looked up the CARL method and that seems like the way to go. I wish I could sacrifice one of the rods to make one good one but I don't think I could get myself to do that..
Thanks again

Whatever happened to the internal spigot system that was popular years ago? Would seem the only issue would be finding a suitable internal spigot?

Both spigot and over sleeve type of ferrules will work just fine. I have done both over the years. However, I prefer the over sleeve ferrule. As you mentioned, the problem is finding a suitable piece of blank to use. I have literally hundreds of broken rods and rod pieces that I have acquired over the years. They are really useful for both rod repairs, and making ferrules. However, most rod builders don’t have such a stash of broken rods. My stash has enabled me to find suitable pieces for making ferrules or repairing a broken rods, with many of these rods still in use. The techniques for both are quite similar, and not very difficult to do once you have the suitable piece. Acquiring broken rods is not that difficult. Many people I know just give me all of their old or broken rods, it is also possible to pick up broken rods at local spirting goods stores or fishing shops. They are usually more than happy to get rid of them, saves them the trouble of throwing them out.
Norm