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Broke tip off
Posted by: Bruce Phillips (---)
Date: October 07, 2018 02:17PM

I have a MHX blank that is 8 foot long medium heavy fast action and i broke 5 inches off the tip. Just wondering how bad this will effect the rod action and i guess it may change from a MH fastion to a Heavy xtra fast tip then..... i admit that i broke the rod as i got it pinched between boat and stump while trying to get my crank bait back....thanks...

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Re: Broke tip off
Posted by: roger wilson (---)
Date: October 07, 2018 02:44PM

Bruce,
Since you broke off 5 inches - which effectively ruins the rod except to use as a pool Cue, simply repair the rod.

The critical distance is about the first 2 or 3 inches. So, just use an inner plug and outer sleeve to repair the rod -- per the information in the library, and you will be good to go.

Good luck

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Re: Broke tip off
Posted by: Bruce Phillips (---)
Date: October 07, 2018 03:34PM

roger wilson Wrote:
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> Bruce,
> Since you broke off 5 inches - which effectively
> ruins the rod except to use as a pool Cue, simply
> repair the rod.
>
> The critical distance is about the first 2 or 3
> inches. So, just use an inner plug and outer
> sleeve to repair the rod -- per the information in
> the library, and you will be good to go.
>
> Good luck

Are you referring to this article ? It's 4 inches my mistake..but would have no idea how to make a plug the size of the inside part of rod, looks to be approximately .040 hole inside rod.

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Re: Broke tip off
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: October 07, 2018 06:20PM

Bruce,
Go pick up a few broken rods at a charity box or good well for a few pennies.

Then, select the appropriate part of a blank that will fit inside the two pieces of the broken rod.

Then, select the larger appropriate part of a blank that will act as an over sleeve.

I normally use an inner sleeve that will overlap the break by 2 inches. Also, I use an outer sleeve by 2 inches as well.

It is nice if you can use fiberglass blanks for this purpose because fiberglass tends to be a bit softer and have a bit more "give" than a graphite blank and not make the repaired spot quite so stiff.

Good luck

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Re: Broke tip off
Posted by: Michael Danek (---.alma.mi.frontiernet.net)
Date: October 07, 2018 06:29PM

I respectfully believe an inner sleeve is not necessary for a break at this location. Read the Library article on rod repair and use the over sleeve and it should be good to go. Using an inner sleeve , if unnecessary for good structure, will only slow the action down due to the excess weight. I agree that about 2 inches of overlap is about right. No more, for sure.

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Re: Broke tip off
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: October 07, 2018 06:36PM

Michael,
Could be.

However, I prefer to use the inner sleeve, just to insure that the integrity of the blank is not compromised.
Sometimes in a break there is some blank crushing. I try not to ever trim a break. I would rather reassemble the rod with the ragged edges of the break. If you can get the edges to all intersect, you have more gluing area, and by using an inner sleeve, if there is a hidden crack that runs up along the blank - the inner sleeve will reinforce the blank near the break.

Good luck

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Re: Broke tip off
Posted by: Bruce Phillips (---)
Date: October 07, 2018 06:58PM

I uploaded a picture of the break for reference to photo gallery but i don,t see it.

40 thousands hole is pretty small..



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/07/2018 07:08PM by Bruce Phillips.

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Re: Broke tip off
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.97.252.156.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: October 07, 2018 07:18PM

Put a tip-top on it and move on.

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Re: Broke tip off
Posted by: Bruce Phillips (---)
Date: October 08, 2018 09:24AM

Thanks all for replies..

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Re: Broke tip off
Posted by: roger wilson (---)
Date: October 08, 2018 01:17PM

Bruce,
Again, to protect the integrity of the blank, in case some crushing happened, I will put a piece of appropriately sized piano wire on the inside of the break to insure that there is no tip deformation, on very small tips that are too small for a piece of graphite or fiberglass.

Everyone is free to choose the method that works best for them.

By using both an inner sleeve as well as an outer sleeve, I have never had a repaired break fail at that location. Also, to minimize the weight and to minimize the change in blank action, I generally use my sander on the piece of over sleeving to thin the walls of the blank.

By thinning the walls, both the flex of the repair is increased and the weight of the repair is decreased.

Good luck

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