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Guide inverted
Posted by:
Eliseu Cherene
(---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: September 12, 2015 10:38AM
Because the first guide is inverted? This has a specific function? Until now only seen this in Fuji LC models.
Re: Guide inverted
Posted by:
roger wilson
(---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: September 12, 2015 12:02PM
Any one can place a guide however they wish.
The convention is to make the double foot facing the grip, but it is up to you. Be safe Re: Guide inverted
Posted by:
Phil Ewanicki
(---.res.bhn.net)
Date: September 12, 2015 05:37PM
Has there been any actual testing of the difference in friction on the line during the cast between the two ways of orienting guides? Undocumented opinions are all equally valid but of little use to a practical rod builder. Re: Guide inverted
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: September 12, 2015 05:40PM
Unless the line hits the guide frame, there's no difference and no advantage to doing it this way. However, some guides lately are designed to shed line loops and tangles in one particular direction, so when in doubt, ask the manufacturer or study the sales literature to make sure.
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Posted by:
bill boettcher
(---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 12, 2015 06:07PM
I say it is a Fuji thing They made a guide to eliminate line knots A lot of vidios on this
Then on there rods all of a sudden they turned the butt guide around -- Which to me made no sense Line Knots don't worry about them any more ??? And a short while after they came out with the UV guides So you think and do whatever you want the way you turn the guides I guess it makes no differense ????? Or does it Bill - willierods.com Re: Guide inverted
Posted by:
Jim Ising
(---.dyn.centurytel.net)
Date: September 14, 2015 11:45AM
The AT and LC have always had a reputation for reduced line slap and I'm sure they had an influence on the development of the RV. In the single leg model (the KL-H) the frame leans forward enough to gain the tangle free performance Fuji was aiming for but at that angle the engineers saw a need to then tilt the ring frame back toward a more vertical position to open up the oval shape created by the leaning guide - which was in effect reducing effective ring size by a size or more. Fuji's patent protects the "double-sloping" design, which is why competitors simply lean the guide over like it was bent at the foot and effectively reduce the size (opening) of the ring. I digress. When you add another leg to create a double-foot you must also pull the feet apart to gain the stability you're shooting for in a this configuration. When you do that the frame members lengthen. That's not a problem with a "regular" sized ring but when you start putting a smaller ring on top of a higher LONGER FOOTPRINT frame (KR CONCEPT) the legs from side-to-side are much closer together due to the smaller ring diameter and in this more narrow position have a higher chance of getting in the way...particularly in the stripper position. Fuji solved this problem quite brilliantly by simply turning the frame around and pulling from the lessons learned with the AT and LC.
It was not a pointless modification. Re: Guide inverted
Posted by:
Eliseu Cherene
(---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: September 19, 2015 05:23AM
Thanks my friends. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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