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duckett guide removal
Posted by:
David Bourque
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Date: September 03, 2015 09:04PM
Any tips on removing Duckett guides? Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
gabriele schieda
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Date: September 03, 2015 11:28PM
Little heat from a lighter and cut along the top of the guide foot so you don't hit the blank. Then your finger nail or popsicle stick and heat as needed. Not to hot though. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
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Date: September 04, 2015 07:58AM
No heat, just shave the thread from the top of the guide foot and peel the thread off.
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Posted by:
David Bourque
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Date: September 04, 2015 09:55AM
That was the most difficult guide i have ever taken off. The thread just falls apart when i pull on it and the finish doesnt seem like epoxy. The worse part is some of the white paint came off but at least it will be under the new thread. Seems like they install the guides very poorly which makes the repair very painfull. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Scott Hovanec
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Date: September 04, 2015 10:11AM
Heat has no effect on those wraps. The finish is very hard and brittle. Like Tom said, cut along the top of the guide foot and peel it off. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: September 04, 2015 10:59AM
I love those rods. Constant source of rod repair business for me.:) Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Tom Wewerka
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Date: September 07, 2015 07:35PM
Lou Auret Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I love those rods. Constant source of rod repair > business for me.:) Yup and ABU Garcia Vendetta micros. Most guys just simply have me replace them all. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: September 07, 2015 09:33PM
Does anyone know what finish is on there rods Does not sound like epoxy nor permagloss ?? Bill - willierods.com Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: September 08, 2015 07:59AM
Bill, from having repaired a bunch of them i am thinking its one of those cure via a light source type epoxies.
Like we use for making lures and dentists use for gluing in crowns etc. By the time i get to them it looks like they never stopped curing: perhaps exposure to lots of sunlight? But that stuff has gone rock hard. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Ken Preston
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Date: September 08, 2015 09:02AM
Yes the finish is a UV cure composite. No, they come off the line just that hard. There is no additional hardening in sunlight. It is a drawback (or a plus) depending on your point of view. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: September 08, 2015 10:17AM
ken,
just curious: if they cure via UV how do they stop curing in sunlight( a good UV emitter). Is there a cure limit with the product they use ? Or do they coat with a Uv blocker or? I know the lures and fly heads i make using various wave length emitters could use that if available. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Ken Preston
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Date: September 08, 2015 11:09AM
The UV liquids commonly used for rod wraps cure at around 360 - 365nm. Below that (down to the 240nm range) are primarily used for zapping bacteria in water treatment and in furnaces to cleanse air passing through a plenum. That range is very dangerous! Sunlight while it contains the 365nm wavelength just doesn't have sufficient strength to further cure the compound no matter how long it remains in sunlight. Yes, there are products available for use in curing fly heads and they work but most have some inherent drawbacks - too hard and subject to cracking / crazing when flexed or too soft (to the point of 'squishy') and some require a second step of rub down with alcohol to remove a hazy/oily residue. You will, I think find that those used on fly heads cure up around 395nm like the small penlight that is available for - which is inherently safer for your eyes and skin. Those products are sold by LOON, Tuffleye, Bugbond, Clear Cure Goo and several others and will also cure in sunlight (given enough time - several minutes to an hour or more. The basic premise is the lower the NM number the more resistant it is to sunlight cure and the more intense the applied light source needs to be. I've been "playing around" with different solutions/liquids and light sources for several years including encapsulates (which perform inherently better and are used on spacecraft electrical components). My work in this area to date could put a "productized" unit on the market for about $100.00 - much of which would have to go to non-recurring R&D time) and would provide a safe, non-yellowing, one-step, one coat equivalent to 3 coats of permagloss in around 10 seconds. This would be excellent for one or two guide repair work but I've found most builders would still prefer the "deep" look of 2-part epoxy for most of their builds. So, I doubt I will look to any broad-based marketing and simply develop it for myself. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: September 08, 2015 11:46AM
Thanks Ken. I too play with the fly head and lure products which is why i asked. Also the yellowing is bad on most i have used.
But i normally lose the lure or fly before its a problem. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Ken Preston
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Date: September 08, 2015 02:17PM
The resins in some are epoxy based and will definitely yellow. Others are acrylic or varnish type base materials and will not yellow at all. Again this is why I chose to focus on the lower end of the light spectrum. In that case too the lower the NM number the less it will yellow. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: September 08, 2015 03:49PM
That stuff sounds like it is Too Hard and when a blank flexes and it does not you would get a lot of cracked finish ???? Bill - willierods.com Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: September 09, 2015 07:51AM
There was one i played with that i was going to try use on a rod, it was marketed for repairing waders and was flexible, Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Ken Preston
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Date: September 09, 2015 08:01AM
Here's some info for anyone really interested. [globalflyfisher.com] Of these Clear Cure Goo offers a one-step softer finish that does not leave behind a sticky residue (per their information). Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2015 08:04AM by Ken Preston. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Ken Preston
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Date: September 09, 2015 11:47AM
This product has high potential to fill rod/guide repair:
[www.masterbond.com] If anyone is interested I will post the Technical Data Sheet when I receive it. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2015 12:10PM by Ken Preston. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Ken Preston
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Date: September 09, 2015 06:11PM
Product Description
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Notice Master Bond believes the information on the data sheets is reliable and accurate as is technical advice provided by the company. Master Bond makes no warranties, expressed or implied, regarding the accuracy of the information, and assumes no liability regarding the handling and use of this product. Re: duckett guide removal
Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: September 10, 2015 08:14AM
Thanks Ken.
Sounds good but i can see problems with storgage and possibly special shipping needed here in the South. 75 degrees is a cool night time tempreature for many months of the year. Plus that is unopened storage temp, may have to use like permagloss with a screw in the container. Interesting. I will let you know if i get some what my results were, usbale shelf life etc.. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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