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SiC vs. Zirconia toughness
Posted by: Marc Morrone (---.dsl.airstreamcomm.net)
Date: February 09, 2015 11:23AM

Are Zirc rings much less prone to chipping or cracking than SiC? Looking at tip tops more than anything.

Thanks - Marc

Keep it simple - that's all I can handle!

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Re: SiC vs. Zirconia toughness
Posted by: Ryan McBride (---.wavecable.com)
Date: February 09, 2015 12:52PM

Zirc rings might not be as "hard" but are less brittle than SiC in every environment.

R. McBride

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Re: SiC vs. Zirconia toughness
Posted by: Marc Morrone (---.dsl.airstreamcomm.net)
Date: February 09, 2015 02:57PM

Thanks - I am looking for maximum impact resistance, and not worried about hardness.

Thanks - Marc

Keep it simple - that's all I can handle!

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Re: SiC vs. Zirconia toughness
Posted by: Ryan McBride (---.wavecable.com)
Date: February 09, 2015 06:26PM

Well for the hundreds of thousands of guides we sell a year and get less than .0001% back total, I think we have great odds! Also BASS ELITES PRO KEVIN VAN DAMN has stated in all his fishing with the ALPS guides, he has never had a ring pop out. So that has to count for something :)

R. McBride

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Re: SiC vs. Zirconia toughness
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: February 10, 2015 09:51AM

Unless you are using braided lines in sandy or muddy water and fish 24 hours a week casting constantly there is little need to fret over the harness of ring guides.

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Re: SiC vs. Zirconia toughness
Posted by: Marc Morrone (---.dsl.airstreamcomm.net)
Date: February 10, 2015 11:09AM

Actually - not concerned over hardness at all. The most basic ceramics are hard enough for me. What I'm really looking at is toughness - impact resistance.

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Re: SiC vs. Zirconia toughness
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: February 10, 2015 11:36AM

Marc,
If you are looking at toughness or impact resistance, it is pretty tough to beat a pac bay minima guide with no ceramic ring, or one of the Recoil guides that only use a titanium wire with no ceramic ring.

No ring, nothing to break or shatter.

Lots and lots of these guides on rods of all types and no generally reported issues with the guides over lots of use.

Look at a lot of the bigger boat guides. Again, no ring and no issues.

Good luck

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Re: SiC vs. Zirconia toughness
Posted by: Marc Morrone (---.dsl.airstreamcomm.net)
Date: February 10, 2015 12:48PM

I actually use almost all Minima guides - but I still like a ceramic tip top. It just seemed like with mono I got more line wear with the Minima tip.

Any thoughts on this?

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Re: SiC vs. Zirconia toughness
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 10, 2015 03:14PM

Was that tip a 3 - or a 4 There is a difference
The 4s are what is called swaged on both sides of the ring The 3s are not and give a edge on one side that tend to fray line You can use a ringed guide for the tip

Bill - willierods.com



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2015 03:19PM by bill boettcher.

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