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Smeared epoxy
Posted by: Mick Bell (---.range86-138.btcentralplus.com)
Date: January 20, 2014 09:41AM

Hi Guys.
I have just changed from Pacbay finish to Bullard. For some reason the last four rods I have varnished have a strange "smeared" effect on the epoxy.....can anybody shed any light on this?
Mick

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Re: Smeared epoxy
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: January 20, 2014 10:07AM

Mick,
Are you referring to thread finish with a smeared look?

What exactly do you mean - "smeared"?

I assume that nothing has touched the epoxy as it has been curing has it?



Be safe

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Re: Smeared epoxy
Posted by: James Newsome (---.244.204.207.client.dyn.strong-sf33.as22781.net)
Date: January 20, 2014 10:30AM

Bulalrd is Envirotex. Pretty sure it isn't really meant for exterior use although some get by with it. Wonder if that's what got messed up.

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Re: Smeared epoxy
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 20, 2014 10:32AM

Most likely amine blush, caused by a combination of CO2 and moisture.

If you'll set the rod in a very warm place, even in direct sunlight, for a few days it will tend to rectify itself.

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Re: Smeared epoxy
Posted by: Mick Bell (---.range86-138.btcentralplus.com)
Date: January 20, 2014 10:33AM

Roger....It is really difficult to describe.....imagine you marbled the epoxy with an opaque varnish.....kind milky!
Neeless to say its driving me nuts!! I never had this with the Pacbay epoxy...
When I run my finger over it... it leaves a watery residue on my skin almost like it has been sweating

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Re: Smeared epoxy
Posted by: Mick Bell (---.range86-138.btcentralplus.com)
Date: January 20, 2014 10:38AM

Tom
I think you might be onto something.....my workshop is most probably the dampest it has been in years, I ruled out reduced temperature as this is always an issue in Scotland!! I will varnish as normal upstairs with the central heating on where it is dry and see if I get the same reaction....for someone who builds rods for a living it has been a real pest!!
Thank you for your help guys...I knew this was the forum to come to!
Mick

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Re: Smeared epoxy
Posted by: Joe Vanfossen (---.neo.res.rr.com)
Date: January 20, 2014 10:56AM

Mick,

I use Bullard finish, and it would blush on me regularly, about 50% of the time. I've found that it doesn't blush nearly as often when I warm the epoxy before I mix and hit it a bit with the alcohol lamp after the epoxy is in place. When it does blush, it will clear up in a few days.

Joe

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Re: Smeared epoxy
Posted by: Mick Bell (---.range86-138.btcentralplus.com)
Date: January 20, 2014 12:26PM

Joe
Thanks for that...I am glad its not just me I was starting to get paranoid!!
Mick

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Re: Smeared epoxy
Posted by: Garry Thornton (---.natsow.res.rr.com)
Date: January 20, 2014 12:51PM

Last year, a carpenter friend gave me about half a gallon of EnviroTex Lite, that was left over from a bar and table top top project, in a Pub, that he worked on.
Since then I have used it on more than a dozen rods with excellent results.
I suspect that many of those expensive little bottles, sold as rod finish, have EnviroTex inside!

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Re: Smeared epoxy
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 20, 2014 01:57PM

Actually, just 2.

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Re: Smeared epoxy
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 20, 2014 02:18PM

Garry

After a year have you noticed any yellowing in it

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Smeared epoxy
Posted by: Garry Thornton (---.natsow.res.rr.com)
Date: January 20, 2014 02:51PM

No problems of any kind.
As Tom points out, two name brand rod finishes are actually relabeled EnviroTex.

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Re: Smeared epoxy
Posted by: Russell Brunt (165.214.14.---)
Date: January 20, 2014 02:53PM

Bullard is one....care to say which other one?

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

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