While watching some youtube vids I noticed that on this vid [www.youtube.com] the first eye is upside down and according to the comments it allows the line to unspool easier.
Is this correct? Is there any other benefit to this?
Or is it just a cool way to get your rods noticed?
Thanks for any responses
Andi Robb

It's absolute nonsense. The line only knows where the ring is, it cares not one whit which direction the guide foot/feet is pointing. The direction of the guide foot has nothing to do with the relationship between the line and the guide ring.

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I thought as much! I just didn't know if I was missing something!!
Thanks for the answer Tom
Andi

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2013 01:04PM by John E Powell.

Actually I think it does make a slight difference, for the worse...

From a theoretical standpoint, line entering a circular ring at a right angle to the ring would be entering a circular aperture. As the line enters at an angle other than perpendicular, the shape of the aperture would change from circular to elliptical. The elliptical shape, again theoretically, would be less efficient because it would be more restrictive.

I believe reversing the first guide changes the "angle of attack" of the line coming from the reel from near perpendicular to significantly off of perpendicular. I could be way off here, but my gut instinct tells me that rod will not cast as well as it would if traditionally wrapped. How much less, who knows, 5% maybe?

On a related note, I seem to recall a 2-piece factory rod from the 70s that had a butt over tip ferrule arrangement (tip slid into butt section and bottomed out). It had a similar guide layout. When I asked the rep who was showing it about why it was wrapped that way, she (yes, it was a she) said the ring needed to be near the ferrule location and their "engineer" didn't want to wrap the guide foot over the female ferrule so they wrapped it on the front-male blank section just in front of the ferrule. The only reason it sticks in my mind is because she was so proud of the reasoning behind it (whether or not it had any validity).

The angle of the ring is determined by how the frame is bent. It would be a simple matter to wrap the guide in the standard manner and just bend the ring to whatever angle is desired.

Of course your point is well taken - if that is not done the reverse position would, in many cases where the ring is not square to the base, be reversed.

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Yeah it sounds like a gimmick to me. If that angle really do any good, which I doubt it does, you can get the same thing by just bending the guide ring portion.

Hello,

Not sure about bass fishing, but I was told that some anglers working popping lures with heavy spinning tackle, (Stella 18-20k, 80lb+ braid, 125lb+ mono leaders), for hard fighting GT's prefer their double foot stripper guide to be reversed.

Rather than concern for guide ring angle, their reasoning was that having the single leg end of the guide facing towards the reel allowed more space for their heavier leaders to uncoil during the cast. Apparently a standard setup would allow their leader to sort of "flutter" against the two legs of the double foot guide at times, especially when the line was not super tight to the reel's spool.

Again, this is just what I have heard. Never put it to the test so a grain of salt taken with this saltwater technique may be useful.

-chad



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2013 06:21PM by Chad Barlongo.

If their leaders/line are hitting the butt guide frame, they don't have their butt guide correctly positioned.

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I've heard that when the rod is loading on the cast the reversed guide puts the ring at less of an angle to the reel, I'm not sure of the validity of this though.

The line isn't moving through the guide when the rod is being loaded for the cast.

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What about FUJIs no tangle guides

I thought the two braces coming off the sides of the ring helped to keep the line from tangleing when cast

Fujis vidios looked good ??? Turn the guide around and you loose that ??

Bill - willierods.com