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Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Tom Jenson (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 30, 2013 09:13PM

Hey guys,

I'm in the process of picking out components for a few heavy saltwater trolling rods. 50w reels - straight butts and 80w.s with regular curved butts. All will be used in a chair and used trolling for marlin / tuna.

I was thinking American tackle butts. I wanted to go with stuart butts but can't find them in all black. regular curved #4 and regular straight #2,s, and stuart med. rollers for the 80's and the stuart regular rollers for the 50's. Sound right so far? All rollers on the 50's per request. I was thinking calstar graphiter blanks. What length blank do I order? Can I cut the blank to get the desired length? I would rather not cut the blank but will if that's what needs to be done. What is a good over all length for the bent butts? Is that measured from the gimbal straight to the tip?


Thanks
Tom

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Mark Fisher (166.64.1.---)
Date: July 30, 2013 09:45PM

Mate have a look at the Calstar Baby Boomer series. These can be left original or cut down. They are 5'6" but with the Uni-butts can be cut down to any length you want (42" is recommended with the Unibutt). It depends a lot on the action you are after whether you cut just from the butt or a combination of some from the butt and some from the tip. I can't comment on this because everyone has differing fishing styles and needs. A lot depends on the build and strength of the person the rod is being built for.

Hope this helps

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (---.hsd1.sc.comcast.net)
Date: July 30, 2013 10:03PM

As with many questions...not enough information.

My most pressing question is, "what kind of boat?"

Moving on, I personally would not want a Boomer series for a chair rod. The length is fine, but the butt would have to be cut...and that will shorten the rod...not necessarily what you want on a chair rod. The other thing is the fast action of the Boomers...they are stand up rods and too fast for true chair angling.

So...what type of boat? In outboard boats, distance to engine cowlings is important. In inboard boats, distance to the corners is what you want.

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Tom Jenson (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 30, 2013 10:12PM

54' Hatteras w/ 17' beam. New fighting chair is being installed so not sure of the exact measurement to corners yet.

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Randolph Ruwe (---.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
Date: July 30, 2013 10:16PM

I have two Lamiglas RT-80 glass blanks if you are interested, and Aftco roller guides in both gold and silver.Send me an a-mail if interested. rjruwe2@comcast.net

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (---.hsd1.sc.comcast.net)
Date: July 30, 2013 10:49PM

Def. will need all the length you can get...no shorty blanks.

Although an offset stantion brings you further back...if they have one.

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Mark Fisher (101.103.17.---)
Date: July 30, 2013 10:59PM

Sorry, Jay and well picked up. I didn't see the "used in a chair". I was talking about stand up only. My apologies.

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Tom Jenson (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 30, 2013 11:13PM

GF755H for the 50's? That should finish out to about 83" with a regular straight American Tackle butt and plus some for the top????

GF755XH for the 80's? Should be longer but not sure how they measure a curved butt. American Tackle says the #4 regular curved butt is 27.8"



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/30/2013 11:15PM by Tom Jenson.

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Greg Cudnik (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: July 30, 2013 11:43PM

I'd go with Calstar RT50 and RT80 blanks, the 6.5' versions and trim if need be. Winthrop rollers would ice the cake!

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Tom Jenson (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 31, 2013 01:11AM

Greg Cudnik Wrote:
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> I'd go with Calstar RT50 and RT80 blanks, the 6.5'
> versions and trim if need be. Winthrop rollers
> would ice the cake!


That was one of my 1st choices but I didn't think the RT50 would fit in a # 2 butt or the RT80 would fit in a #4

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Tom Jenson (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 31, 2013 01:11AM

Greg Cudnik Wrote:
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> I'd go with Calstar RT50 and RT80 blanks, the 6.5'
> versions and trim if need be. Winthrop rollers
> would ice the cake!


That was one of my 1st choices but I didn't think the RT50 would fit in a # 2 butt or the RT80 would fit in a #4

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Tom Jenson (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 31, 2013 01:12AM

Greg Cudnik Wrote:
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> I'd go with Calstar RT50 and RT80 blanks, the 6.5'
> versions and trim if need be. Winthrop rollers
> would ice the cake!


That was one of my 1st choices but I didn't think the RT50 would fit in a # 2 butt or the RT80 would fit in a #4

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Tom Jenson (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 31, 2013 01:12AM

Greg Cudnik Wrote:
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> I'd go with Calstar RT50 and RT80 blanks, the 6.5'
> versions and trim if need be. Winthrop rollers
> would ice the cake!


That was one of my 1st choices but I didn't think the RT50 would fit in a # 2 butt or the RT80 would fit in a #4

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Tom Jenson (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 31, 2013 01:12AM

Greg Cudnik Wrote:
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> I'd go with Calstar RT50 and RT80 blanks, the 6.5'
> versions and trim if need be. Winthrop rollers
> would ice the cake!


That was one of my 1st choices but I didn't think the RT50 would fit in a # 2 butt or the RT80 would fit in a #4

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (---.hsd1.sc.comcast.net)
Date: July 31, 2013 01:16AM

They'll fit the corresponding butts...they are made for the task.

I'd go with the RT blanks as well for the application you're building for.

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Tom Jenson (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 31, 2013 08:01AM

Wow! 5 duplicate posts. oops.

Thanks guys. I cant find a 6.5' RT80 anywhere, just the 5.5". Anyone know where to get one?

What about guides. Stuart Mediums for the 80's and the regulars for the 50's sound good? The Windthrop tools are out of the question.

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Re: Heavy trolling rods?
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (---.hsd1.sc.comcast.net)
Date: July 31, 2013 02:10PM

I can't really offer help on the Stuart guides. I have always used AFTCO...and for chair rods I'd go with big foot or the wind-on guides.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/31/2013 02:18PM by Jay Lancaster.

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