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Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: Buzz Butters (---.ripon.k12.wi.us)
Date: July 29, 2013 09:39AM

Building some dipsy diver rods that will be using wire line. Need suggestions for roller guides make and model. I want them to be quality however they will not be used in salt water so I am looking for something affordable that will work in fresh water.
Thanks,
Buzz

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: July 29, 2013 09:58AM

here is some thing to look at ??
[www.mudhole.com]

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: Randolph Ruwe (---.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
Date: July 29, 2013 01:03PM

What line wt. , lure wt. ,rod blank, etc. Will make it easier to offer a suggestion.

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: Dennis Danku (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: July 29, 2013 01:06PM

Buzz, Check out AFTCO lightweight roller guides with graphite frames.

Dennis J. Danku
(Sayreville,NJ)

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: July 29, 2013 03:03PM

If you are going with wire, a lot of folks are using the spring wire tip, rather than the more conventional roller tip.

[www.amazon.com]

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: Buzz Butters (---.static.fdul.wi.charter.com)
Date: July 29, 2013 03:20PM

Builders,
I did read a number of posts that I searched from some time ago that suggests using conventional guides with super hard rings instead of the rollers. I am going to look into that along with spring tip mentioned here as well as your roller guide suggestions.

New territory to me. This is fun researching a new kind of build.
thanks for the help.

Buzz

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: Russell Brunt (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 29, 2013 04:08PM

I'd steer you away from roller guides. We used them use them a lot in past years. IMHO ringed guides have gotten good enough that I wouldn't put up with the extra cost and maintenance of roller guides for anything under 50 to 80# class.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: Buzz Butters (---.static.fdul.wi.charter.com)
Date: July 29, 2013 04:44PM

Thanks Russ.
Buzz

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (---.war.clearwire-wmx.net)
Date: July 29, 2013 04:56PM

Silicine nitride guides from Fuji or another source are what you want for wire.

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: July 30, 2013 08:37AM

And they are nicely priced

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: Buzz Butters (---.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com)
Date: July 30, 2013 11:25AM

thanks spencer

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: John E Powell (---.buffalo.res.rr.com)
Date: July 30, 2013 08:53PM

I build great lakes trolling rods almost exclusively. Unless your building a diver rod of about 7' the weight of roller guides is just too much weight for a typical diver rod blank to handle, making them clumsy at best. I've pretty much settled on two build approaches.

For traditional guide layouts, I prefer Fuji BHNNG Silicon Nitride guides [anglersresource.net] with a swiveling Torpedo Roller Guide tip [www.torpedodivers.com]

For a spiral build, I use the same Fuji BHNNG but with a Twili Tip [www.fishingrodstuff.com]. The yellow plastic of the Twili tip is butt ugly, but it works pretty well. If you are building for a really experienced angler who can keep the wire on a non-swiveling roller, then you might consider the All Amerian N e p t u n e Spiral Roller tip [www.aarollerguides.com].

What blank have you settled on?

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: Buzz Butters (---.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com)
Date: July 31, 2013 03:24PM

Ill email you John with some of my thoughts. Buzz

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Re: Roller guide suggestions for fresh water applications
Posted by: Tony Childs (152.72.151.---)
Date: August 05, 2013 04:41PM

Exactly what John said for me also. John, I have wrapped a tiny 6mm Silicon Carbide single foot on the tube of the @#$%& roller and it works similar to the Torpedo in keeping the line on the roller.

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