Hello all,
I have studied and studied the few pics and wording on the narrow trim bands in the library and it is very hard to follow with photos that don't quite show the process. Does anyone have additional photos or tips on narrow trim bands? Is it harder with metallic? Any help would be great, I am getting very frustrated trying to learn these!!!
Thanks!
Jared

Jared Hi,
although i only use Tom's techniques as he describes them in the library I have this ''alternate" way which you can see in a video I came across the other day:
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Hope it helps you get started. I am sure if you try this simpler way you'll find Tom's ways easier to understand.

Phillips Hot Rods
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Thank you! After reading it for the 10th time I think i figured it out! now i just have to practice it, I am guessing it will be harder with metallic thread as it seems to work differently...

I don't have a link, buI use a 'Nail knot' when I make trim bands. You might find lots of videos for ail knots. No more difficult for metallics imho.

I will try to explain the easiest method to make trim bands and also inlaid thread in your wrap. It won't be easy without pictures so I hope I can explain it sufficeintly. I taught it at 5 different RodCrafter Seminars.
#1 a few inches in front of the guide you wish to wrap place a piece of tape that has both ends sticking up. 2. lay the trim thread in along side the blank. 3. put a tie off loop along side the blank and make sure it extends beyond the point where you will start your guid wrap and so it will pull toward the guide foot. 4. Start your wrap over the trim thread and the tie off loop and after about 6 revolutions cut the tag of the wrap thread and pick up the trim thread and wrap around the blank at the end of your wrap. After you have wraped it around as many turns as you desire, stick the remaining thread through the tie off loop and snug it up to the guide wrap. 5. Cut the excess off, and then while pressing on the trim wrap, pull the tie off loop towards the guide. No tag ends will be visible. Continue to wrap and then pick up the tail end of the trim thread and making sure you are on the inside of the wrap thread, make as many inlay turns as you desire. 6. move the inlay thread tail 90 degrees towards the guide foot and wrap around it a couple of times and then cut it and continuue wraping the guide on as norma.

I hope this was not confusing. Randy

Randy, I think you might be a genius! I think I understand that completely and am going to go try that!

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I don't know a totally easy way. I don't like to see metallic under the guide wrap which happens when you don't use cp. I like to do three turns of metallic. I hold the tie in loop on the blank, wrap three turns over it, and pull through past the starting tag. Slide into place, pull on the tags and you are basically tying a knot that hold enough that you can cut the tags off with a razor.

Greg
Aptos, CA

Thank you Jim! Can I post a link to that tutorial here so if others are looking for it they can find it?

With the method that I outlined above, you are able to make a single thread trim band if you wish or multiple threads.

Jared, I sent you a tutorial I've used in teaching classes as well.

Terry

Nice work, Randy, I get it and it sounds like it will work well.

If one wants to use the method in the library to put a narrow trim band OUTSIDE of a regular wrap, I have found that using a smaller diameter "tool" than my finger to wrap the threads around works much better than my finger. I use any cylinder shape about pencil diameter or smaller (cut off ends of the yellow disposable brushes work pretty well) placed on the blank, parallel to and touching the blank, then wrap the number of turns wanted around it and the blank, then stick the thread through the gap between the blank and the tool, and carefully pull tight and adjust position. It allows keeping control ot the threads much easier than my fat finger. Just do the library process but use a small, smooth, finger emulator.

If anyone is going to be at the Lamiglas seminar at Woodland, WA on April 5 & 6, I will be demonstrating this easy technique for trim and inlay.

For the start of a guide wrap
i take the trim thread Go over the blank once Then about another half turn
Wrapping left to right - I then push the thread over to the right Over itself three or four times Then a piece of tape over Cut the main thread off from the spool
Then start the main wrap to the right of the trim Wrap 4 - 5 turns
pull the tape off the trim
pack The tag ends of the trim can be tightened several more turns of main wrap thread Then trim
finish the wrap

Inside the main wrap and at the end of it are different ways again
To me it is quick and easy

Bill - willierods.com