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Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: December 22, 2012 02:17PM

Hi guys, I have done a few and love the technique. My question is do you guys CP the whole decal everytime?

Thanks!!

Scott

"My biggest fear in life is that when I die, my wife will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it."

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Re: Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: Terry Turner (---.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
Date: December 22, 2012 02:22PM

Yeah, every time. Or, I use Krylon fixative. Every time I didn't, I had issues with wavy finish around the label edges where some glue seeped out. When I coat them, I don't have this issue so I plan it for every build now.

Terry

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Re: Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: December 22, 2012 02:53PM

Excellent just what i needed Terry. Any particular CP you like better for them? Thanks again.

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Re: Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: David Dosser (---.columbus.res.rr.com)
Date: December 22, 2012 05:49PM

I spray the decal with Krylon crystal clear - 3 coats. I then apply CP to the edges only. Works for me.

David Dosser
Coshocton, OH

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Re: Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: December 22, 2012 07:34PM

Hmmm, might have to try that David. I used reg CP, not the clear (which I also have) and it kind of faded a little. Not too bad....

Thanks!

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Re: Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: Michael Danek (50.42.147.---)
Date: December 22, 2012 08:57PM

When I have the decal printed I spray with Papilio or Krylon clear gloss UV inhibited fixative. Then I cut it out. That leaves the edge without fixative. After applying to the rod blank I go around the edges (only the edges) with Flex Coat CP to seal the edge so that it doesn't curl when epoxy is applied. This has worked for me. Like David said.

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Re: Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: Michael Danek (50.42.147.---)
Date: December 22, 2012 08:59PM

Just noted your comment on clear CP- I have used some clear CP, and it took forever to cure. I would stay with the conventional CP like Flex Coat. It has never looked anything but clear, and it cures reliably.

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Re: Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: December 22, 2012 09:07PM

Thanks!

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Re: Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: David Dosser (---.columbus.res.rr.com)
Date: December 23, 2012 07:53PM

I use Cason's crystal clear water based CP. It dries fast, no problems at all with it. I found that coating the decal with Krylon before you apply it works really well and seals in the ink also. I messed up a while back and tried the Papillo first, then sprayed Krylon over it. It made a cloudy mess. I would say use one or the other, krylon or Papillo, not both. I decided to stick with the krylon because it is easy to get locally and dries super fast. Then cp around the edges and you're ready for finish.

David Dosser
Coshocton, OH

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Re: Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: Scott Backholm (---.uscg.mil)
Date: December 23, 2012 10:03PM

Thanks David, so you put the Krylon, and then the CP as well?

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Re: Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: David Dosser (---.columbus.res.rr.com)
Date: December 25, 2012 02:25PM

Three coats of Krylon before you apply decal, then apply and CP around edges.

David Dosser
Coshocton, OH

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Re: Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: justin keithley (---.ostusa.com)
Date: December 26, 2012 02:04PM

2 coats krylon fixative, 1 ample coat Flex Coat CP. I've also been inserting a krylon clear UV protectant between fixative and CP lately

Regards,
-Justin

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Re: Question for Vinyl Decal guys
Posted by: Michael Danek (50.42.147.---)
Date: December 29, 2012 09:02AM

I am a firm believer in the dry wall principal. There comes a time in sanding dry wall where more sanding will just make it worse. While it is difficult to find that point in dry wall, it's easy on decals. I suggest just one coat of fixative (get it too thick and it gets stiff and with more coats you have more chance of getting a run) and CP just around the edges (to minimize any problems CP might cause. CP is needed for the edge sealing, CP is redundant on the rest of the decal), Then on with the epoxy. As many coats as you like, I usually end up with two on decals on the blank and three on decals on the foam ramps that I often use.

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