I've been out of the rodbuilding loop for a bit. Most of my previous rods used the "New Concept" guide placement. I was reading about the KR theory. The way I understand it works for a casting rod, is to start with about a 10 guide, choke it down to 5 and run 4 or 4.5's out to the tip. Seems like it is just a "extreme" version of the "new concept" theory. Is it that simple or am I missing something? That is basically the way I see it but, that kind of thinking has been known to get me in trouble. I'm just looking for a little validation or a education. Thanks.

George

Those are for spinning rods
The system is used to tame the pig tails that come off a spinning reel
Casting reels don't have that problem The line comes off the reel in a straight line Nothing to tame
Except the fish
Check out the Library Page There are articals about it there

Bill - willierods.com

[www.youtube.com] The first 5 min of the video pertains to KR concept spinning and the last couple minutes pertain to KR concept casting.

Because of the more simple dynamics involved in casting with a casting reel, the set up is also more simple. There's just not as much to it.

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George, I just got finished with one, a med-hvy 7'3", MHX. fast act. I got #10, then #5, then 4.5 all the way to tip. I had built rods with all 3,s and some with a 5 then 4.5, then all 3,s to tip, the only difference I see is that the butt guide is closer to the reel seat, and the look is different, but casting wise, I cannot tell to much difference, But I do think the one with the #10, does give more distance, but I really don't know by how much more, I really like the way this one looks I thing I will stick to this setup. Tight wraps!

lorenzo
it all depend on action of your blank
if you build fast or x-fast you can make it all #4 or start with #6-#5 with stripper location further from reel
but in medium or slow blank i think fuji KR with #10 KW stripper closer to reel is good.because if you make stripper far away in this blank, line will touch or through below the blank between reel and stripper
it happen to me once

Thanks for all the input. I appreciate it. Sounds like everything is set up like business as usual. Just starting with a smaller stripper and choking it down sooner. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything critical. I think I will start with a 10, 5.5, 4's out to the tip but, only because I think that would look good. Then I'll go do some casting/tweaking before I wrap. Thanks again.

George, thanks for the video link. Regarding the casting rod, I'm no expert on this setup, but I'm not convinced the action of the rod will have anything to do with the layout of the first two guides FOR THE CAST. The rod, close to the reel, is essentially straight when casting. I think I'll start with what Fuji has spent a year on perfecting. Maybe the fast action comment is valid for the deflected, loaded, rod, but for the cast, I just don't see it.