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EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
James Carnes
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Date: January 16, 2012 09:01PM
I am attempting to make a transition from a EVA foregrip to the rod by covering the EVA with rod finish (Pro Kote). The end result being a firm and glossy like winding check or transition piece. It looks good, but the finish keeps seeping under whatever straight edge I am attempting to accomplish. Does anyone have any tricks or suggestions as to how to get a nice crisp edge where the finish meets the rest of the EVA foregrip? Thanks.
James Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
Billy Vivona
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Date: January 16, 2012 09:22PM
Don't let finish touch EVA, it's like a friggin magnet that makes a complete mess. If you want the epoxy to butt up to the EVA, I suggest leaving a steep edge at the fornt of the grip, applying finish then the last stel is to carefully sand theforegrip to meet the EVA. Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
James Carnes
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Date: January 16, 2012 10:57PM Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
lorenzo tellez
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Date: January 17, 2012 08:28AM
It looks like on the photo that it is a different part, its a good looking job he did, I am wondering also on how he did it, cause I have tried something similar with eva and all the eva did was soak the epoxy up and make a mess, then I tried taping the eva so it will make a straight line but it still got under the eva, what a mess, but I eventually sanded the eva and made a straight line, but not as close as looking good as that pic, maybe he made like an indention in the eva so the epoxy would not spread to the eva where he doesn't want it to go, your guess is as good as any of mine probably better lol! Good Luck! Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
Billy Vivona
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Date: January 17, 2012 08:41AM
Lots of Offshore rods that use leather foregrips look likethat, but the epoxy is applied to thread not to the leather. I'll assume thta they had a ramp withthread wrapped over it, and they were careful with how the epoxy was applied. Or it's just a hosel that was made off the rod and installed like a winding check.
I'm assuming I do not know for sure. Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
bill boettcher
(---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 17, 2012 09:29AM
Looks like you can make it out of cork - fill -sand-paint
Or wood or a large reel seat arbor ? Foam Shape paint Do all the work off the rod then ream and glue on Even shape and paint eva off the rod and glue on Clean edges Bill - willierods.com Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
James Carnes
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Date: January 17, 2012 10:27AM
I have seen the rods in the photo in person and they are absolutely seamless, like this is not an extra added piece, such as a hosel, but rather the finish is built up on the EVA. I think the best explanation is that they put finish on thread wrapped EVA seperate from the rod and then glued it in place . They were just very careful to hide the glued seam where it meets the EVA of the foregrip. I just cain't get a crisp straight edge like that.
James Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: January 17, 2012 10:55AM
I believe that's a flocked grip, not an EVA grip.
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Posted by:
James Carnes
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Date: January 17, 2012 11:16AM
Tom - trust me it's black EVA, not a flocked grip. I've held it in my hands so I know. These rods are from a major manufacturer. See more of them @ :[www.blackbartlures.com]
James Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: January 17, 2012 11:19AM
In that case you can get a similar straight epoxy edge by simply spinning the grip in a lathe while the epoxy is setting and using a solvent soaked rag to true the edge. You may have to do this several times across an hour's window, but it will result in what you see in that photo.
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Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: January 17, 2012 11:40AM
Does it make a difference if a Separate piece is made and then glued on
There would be a crisp line between the two Instead of trying to duplicate what they did ??? Bill - willierods.com Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
Fred Yarmolowicz
(---.georgewall.com)
Date: January 17, 2012 02:53PM
Wonder if it would help to hang the rod tip down? Freddwhy (Rapt-Ryte) Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
James Carnes
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Date: January 17, 2012 03:34PM
After thinking about this most of the day I think I came up with several solutions to acheive a clean, crisp edge. Knowing that EVA foam is porous, thereby causing the epoxy finish to wick or seep under the masked off area by capillary action, one must seal up the EVA with something to prevent the epoxy finish from penetrating the EVA foam. I have tried several things today including clear Krylon Fusion spray, and a product called Plasti dip used for coating tools. It comes in black and I diped the end of a grip in it and have it hanging to dry overnight. I will put some epoxy finish on top of these expermential EVA grips tomorrow and report back on the results. I think the Plasti dip is going to do the trick.
James James Carnes Osprey Custom Fishing Rods Charlotte, North Carolina www.ospreycustomfishingrods.com 704-589-9601 Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
bill boettcher
(---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 17, 2012 06:25PM
WHY ARE YOU DRIVING YOURSELF CRAZY
Should and will be a lot easier to make a separate piece off the rod ??? Slide on and glue in place ???? Can some one give me a reason why not Bill - willierods.com Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
Robert A. Guist
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Date: January 19, 2012 12:48PM
Hello All
If you CP the grips tip let dry, tape off and apply epoxy, remove the tape before the epoxy dries and if any epoxy gets by the tape do as Tom said and take a cloth(not paper towel or filter)with a good amount of DNA and hold it against the rod to clean the line. Sometimes I just build it up like a ramp, no CP or anything but the line can get a little wavy that way sometimes, and you have to stay with it till it gets thick enough that it does'nt soak into a ragged line. Tom you might remember the gray Seeker GTS60XH I brought to the ICRBE last year, I did it free-hand no CP or even tape it just takes time and patience. Hope this helps. Bob, New Bern, NC. Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: January 19, 2012 12:56PM
Time is money And patienceI have none
Still can not see why Bill - willierods.com Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
James Carnes
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Date: January 19, 2012 02:08PM
Bill - main reason for all this is that the guides are already on the rod and I needed to put a logo on the grip under rod finish. Not able to do it on a seperate piece and glue it on the rod this time. Its almost finished and I will post a photo when done.
Thanks - James James Carnes Osprey Custom Fishing Rods Charlotte, North Carolina www.ospreycustomfishingrods.com 704-589-9601 Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
bill boettcher
(---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 19, 2012 04:14PM
I did not realize the guides were on
Don't think any one said this ??? Bill - willierods.com Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
Bill Molden
(---.prod-infinitum.com.mx)
Date: August 04, 2012 02:21PM
James did yor plan work? I'm fighting the same problem with the EVA/tape/epoxy. I built the ramp out of u40, thene coated (attempted) it with tinted epoxy (black). I can't clean up the epoxy on the EVA and get a clean line. Still tryin......over. Re: EVA to Rod Transition
Posted by:
Bill Molden
(---.prod-infinitum.com.mx)
Date: August 04, 2012 02:22PM
James did your plan work? I'm fighting the same problem with the EVA/tape/epoxy. I built the ramp out of u40, thene coated (attempted) it with tinted epoxy (black). I can't clean up the epoxy on the EVA and get a clean line. Still tryin......over. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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